• SleepyPie@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Bruh, you would be spreading other peoples piss and shit germs on everything your sleeve touches until it’s washed 🫠

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    5 months ago

    Theoretically, if everyone did the Yes, the But wouldn’t be that big of a But.

    Sadly, I’m well aware not everyone does the Yes. Going into a men’s public bathroom is disgusting; it’s disgraceful how many men I’ve seen leave without washing.

        • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
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          5 months ago

          They are saying that they don’t feel like their hands are getting dirty by touching their dick because their dick is in their underpants all day.

          The flaw to this argument is that your dick and balls can get sweaty and gross in there. And when you touch it, your hands can get gross too. Not to mention that your hands can get gross just by walking around and touching things in society. And the bathroom stop is meant to be a bio-break that enforces washing all the germs from your hands from walking around in society.

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      5 months ago

      My hands harbor far more bacteria than my dick. And so does that door handle, the grossest part of the whole business.

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      5 months ago

      My favorite was a guy in college who came in, used the urinal, used the hand dryer, and left.

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    5 months ago

    You also pull up your pants before washing your hands. If I were a germophobe, I’d be terrified of the two spots I grab to pull my pants up after pooping.

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    5 months ago

    Use a paper towel to open the door and toss it into the next garbage you see outside the bathroom. Or toss it into the trash as you leave.

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      4 months ago

      This is what I do but it’s a waste of paper honestly. If they buy a sink and maintain it so I can keep clean, it’s silly that they don’t buy a door conducive to that purpose.

      I think hygiene is literally just theatre to a lot of people.

    • ...m...@ttrpg.network
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      5 months ago

      …just use your tongue to pull the door open, that way you can keep your hands freshly-cleaned…

  • SlippiHUD@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    That door closer is installed on the wrong side of the door if its a pull, it’s actually a push.

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    5 months ago

    That’s the best version. People leave with washed hands so hands remain clean and it’s possible to enter by pushing with a foot.

    The other way requires using the door handle while entering. That can contaminate the hand that is going to touch or get close to the private parts. It’s better to have that hand as clean as possible.

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      5 months ago

      Hard disagree.

      1. Your hands are filthy regardless, you’re on your way IN to the bathroom so you very likely haven’t washed your hands but you’ve touched a LOT of things. Phones, keyboards, door handles, banisters etc. Pulling one more door open is not adding any meaningful contamination. If you are that concerned about one door handle, you should be VERY concerned about the state your hand is already in and thus would need to wash your hands before using the other facilities anyway.
      2. You’re being overly paranoid. Your junk is not going to explode because it interacted with real world pathogens.
    • ronl2k@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Clean, dry and uncut hands create a formidable barrier to pathogen transmission. And the most dangerous pathogens tend not to live long outside a living body.

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        Also, sebum is a useful thing.
        So wait for a while after washing hands, before touching dirty stuff.[1]

        I tend to rub my oily nose/head with my fingers, right before doing something that I know would require me to wash my hands later. Makes cleaning with a soap much easier.
        Also, has it happened to you sometimes, that even if you try your best to wipe your hands after washing, they tend to easily stick dirt for a while, until they become just a little bit oily (because the palm doesn’t accumulate enough oil for one to casually notice).


        1. of course that can’t be done in public restrooms, but considering that people are always coughing enough for the exhaust fans to be rendered inadequate, the exit door is hardly a big deal ↩︎

      • plyth@feddit.org
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        5 months ago

        So better not wash hands, especially if one had to touch a dirty door?

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          5 months ago

          So better not wash hands, especially if one had to touch a dirty door?

          No. My point was that dry, unopened human skin makes pathogen transmission by touch nothing to worry about.

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    5 months ago

    In my country it is illegal to have bathroom doors open to the inside. Same with doors leading outside. It was weird to move abroad as I couldn’t get used to them opening the other way.

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      5 months ago

      It’s unsafe for doors to open into hallways, so you need to design alcoves for every entrance otherwise, so far more space is wasted.

      Also, use paper to open the door, and a lot of places have foot pulls now, easier for handicapped people as well.

      The best entrance, especially for handicapped people, is a maze entrance, but uses even more space.

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          5 months ago

          Kid running down a hallway gets a door in the face when it opens in the hallway. Or someone evacuating during an emergency.

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        5 months ago

        On the other hand doors opening to the inside are less safe in case of an emergency. In my country, all doors in public places must open towards the exit of the building.

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          5 months ago

          That’s due to a panic response and people pressing against the doors so you can’t pull them open. That only happens after a certain amount of people. The couple dozen max in a bathroom or most office and conference rooms won’t have that issue. But all the doors from the hallways out will swing towards the path of egress though.

          Codes stipulate the occupancy amount that requires it, I believe the model building codes of NA and most of Europe calls for 100 people occupancy. Unless it’s been changed in the last few years.

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      5 months ago

      I’ve seen a lot of places add those foot pull handles to doors since COVID. Not the best, but it’s a solution

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        5 months ago

        I never saw this but want them everywhere. I just have to try to grab the doors/handles on unusual places where not many people would touch them

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      5 months ago

      Some places have little foot hooks at the bottom.

      I wonder if push to enter doors cut down on injuries of people rushing to the toilet, or if it’s just because they usually open into corridors.

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    Pisses off, especially considering that like 70% of men don’t wash their hands. I’ve become an expert in using my elbow.

    • achance4cheese@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      Nothing like losing your balance or getting your foot jammed when someone slams the door open from the other side. I prefer the wheelchair buttons

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        I’ve hyperextended my knee using one. Good times. Hyperextension used to be a “oh that sucked” but as I get older they’re more and more a "oh shit is this the time it fails on me? " territory.

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      5 months ago

      Most general public bathrooms (ie. not ones found within stores/reataurants) in Australia don’t have doors - but rather an S-shaped path that provides privacy, without the necessary “stickiness” of having to touch a door handle.

      Is this not common elsewhere?

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        5 months ago

        Yeah we have that in Europe on highway stops and other places with high traffic of people like stadiums, big concert venues etc.

        • Spraynard Kruger@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          I have been joking with my roommate lately that we’re probably only a decade or so out from landlords putting coin-op toilets in apartments. What a capitalist dystopia it’ll be.

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        5 months ago

        In facilities that have lots of room, yes (malls, schools, etc). Workplaces generally less inclined to devote that much space to it.

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    5 months ago

    As everyone has already said, use the paper towels. Some doors are also equiped with a small piece of metal at the base of the door which you step on, and pull with your shoe

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      That foot thing is an awful design IMO. Rather than a step-on to pull, it should be a design that allows you to flex your foot up and hook it under something to pull. The step-on kind necessarily requires you to put weight on it, letting off pressure on your other foot thereby causing instability. This can be difficult to manage for lighter people or on doors requiring a heavier pull force to open. The hook under kind would stabilize the person trying to open the door.

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        I don’t disagree, I still use a paper towel. When it was first installed they forgot to modify the mechanism that closes the door on one of the bathrooms. The tension was set still set to prevent someone from being smashed in the face (or the door from slamming shut), but that meant you needed apply a fair amount of force to open the door. They’ve since adjusted it and now it’s pretty easy to open with just one foot

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        Counter argument: having to hook your foot runs the risk of damaging the tops of your shoes (often softer material) or your foot if you’re wearing sandals. You can be sure that the bottoms of everyone’s shoes are designed for at least minimal impact protection.

        I like the foot step and use them when I can, but it helps to reinforce that the paper towel with a well-placed trash can is the best method imo.

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          Neither option is good, tbh. Hook under allows better grip for those capable, but doesn’t allow for some disabled people. Step on increases the likelihood of usability but also increases the likelihood of becoming unbalanced and falling.

          Both options ignore the possibility of broken toes when someone on the outside attempts to push the door in at the moment you’ve got your foot planted on it or hooked under it.

          We live in an era where automatic doors and push buttons to open them are a well established thing. Do that instead.

          Barring that, the hallway with two turns like Walmart uses is an option. Just make sure they’re wide enough for the widest wheelchairs and power chairs, and the turns aren’t too tight.

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    There are a good reasons for this:
    Inward opening doors pull air into the bathroom area and both contain the smells and germs, (the opposite is true for outward opening doors) but also bring additional fresh air in.
    Doors that open outwards into hallways (where public access toilets are most commonly found) is a huge hazard to people passing the door.

    Not to mention foot pulls and automatic door openers are becoming more common so you dont have to touch the handle as often.

    Lots of newer public toilets (at least in australia) are designed with an s-bend entrance to eliminate doors completely (however require constant exhaust).
    Toilets in commercial buildings often have ante-chambers where doors open both ways into the chamber so you have to touch a handle regardless of direction of travel. (Common in offices and hospitals)

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      Foot pulls are common in the US in places like McDonald’s, where it’s constantly been a struggle to keep all the self-ordering kiosks clean, as an employee I only touched it once a week and that was to clean it, and that’s when I realized it was the first thing in the uncleaned hands pipeline to be touched because of how dirty they were.