• haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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    Last time, germany at least had the guts to spearhead the reich. This time they’re just a bootlicker, following their imperialist friends.

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    I’d find Germany less responsible for WWIII if maybe they ya know didn’t support a genocidal terrorist ethnostate at the expense of domestically suppressing speech calling out that foreign policy, but I guess it just be like that sometimes

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    Except Germany keeps delivering weapons to Israel, gives them diplomatic and political coverage, and apparently even has planes in the air to support Israeli fighter jets in their attacks on Iran.

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      you think WW3 is starting because of Israel? Can I also get under the rock your been living under, must be nice there.

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        Israel is not only at the very center of the world (look at maps: it’s very much the geographic center. That’s why we call it middle east.)

        it’s also reckless and like a dying star, a supernova. it blows up without regards to casualties. it is a very dangerous situation that we’re in indeed.

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            fair

            i guess most western maps are arranged in such a way that the middle east is in the center and the atlantic is on the map completely because

            1. the atlantic has probably been more important historically than the pacific, as europeans sailed over the atlantic, not the pacific.

            2. the pacific ocean is a bigger body of water, so having it on the “back” side of the globe makes sense because this way, you have a more uninteresting back-side of the globe and a more interesting front-side.

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              No, they are not. I really suggest you look at an European map. Algeria/Mali are in the center of the map, depending on how much Antarctica is included.

              Maps are normally centered roughly around the region you buy them in. European maps are centered on the 0 meridian, because it fits so nicely while keeping the European countries around the center. The 0 meridian was just defined by the Brits as going through Greenwich.

              The bottom is cut of more, because Antarctica is less interesting than Canada, Greenland and Siberia.

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          I dont see the potential for global conflict.

          Israel and Iran have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It’s a regional conflict, and regional it will remain.

          Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

          (That being said, is Netanyahu a deplorable asshat? Absolutely yes – but for different reasons)

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            “have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It’s a regional conflict, and regional it will remain.”

            Lol, this sounds like a quote from someone in 1914 being catastrophicly wrong.

            Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

            But apparently we do need religious crazies who already have nukes, are in the middle of a massive genocide, are attacking and occupying multiple other countries, and have ambitions of conquering the whole middle east, to act as World Police?

            You’re literally endorsing war crimes.

            Netanyahu a deplorable asshat

            By “deplorable asshat”, you mean the fascist leader of a genocidal ethnostate currently launching multiple wars of aggression.

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            Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

            At this point, I would be fine with Iran having the bomb. I really don’t see any evidence that they would behave more recklessly with it than Israel does.

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              cue Oprah

              YOU GET THE BOMB, YOU GET THE BOMB, YOU GET THE BOMB, EVERYONE GETS THE BOMB!


              Them not behaving more recklessly than Israel is unfortunately not a high bar; which given their past actions I’m not sure they’d pass. I’d like to err on the side of caution here.

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                Iran has a right to self defense. Them getting the bomb is the side of caution here. Otherwise they will keep being attacked by Israel and it’s allies

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        Israel is a prominent member of the global western capitalistic hegemony, and they are escalating tensions with their genocide and attack on Iran. I wouldn’t say they’re the only ones responsible, but they do share a large portion of the blame.

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        Yeah sounds like you’re under deep rock for so long, you mistake the sky for an even larger rock.

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    They are complicit in supporting and arming Israel as well as supporting the genocide.

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    Germans when they realise WW2 was caused by an man from Austria

    Germans when they realise WW1 was caused by the assassination of the archduke of Austria and the subsequent declaration of war from Austria-Hungary on Serbia.

    You could say Austria is responsible, but Hitler was in Germany, so WW2 is kinda our problem…

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        I know you’re being sarcastic. Although I tried to say that WW2 is “our” fault (Germany caused it). But as I read my last sentence again, I do see it’s weirdly written.

        Anyway, I am just frustrated that we (Germans) are apologizing forever, paying other countries huge amounts of money, etc. Yes, it was very very bad what happened during that time, but we weren’t the only ones doing bad shit! The “great and free” land of the fucking USA is (TO THIS DAY) the ONLY state, that has ever dropped a nuclear weapon on another country. Or have they apologized to Vietnam? To the hundreds (if not thousands) of victims to the crimes of the CIA? Have they apologized for Project MKUltra? Or the Tuskegee Syphilis Study? I could go on, but it’s already a pretty good list… Now, did the US do anything to apologize, pay compensation or anything? NO! They tried to hide it. Just like communists in China or Russia or the former USSR. And whose the biggest enemy of the US? THE FUCKING COMMUNISTS! (I am not a communist by the way, I just wanted to point out the irony.) Furthermore: China, Russia, USSR, etc. have been spying their people. Guess who is spying (not only US Citizens): the motherfucking NSA! Like with the Intel ME ( Great Video from Mental Outlaw btw ). Or EternalBlue, which the NSA exploited for years and not telling Microsoft to fix it…

        Sorry, this hatred has been building up in me the last several months. But I am not hating the citizens, they (systematically) don’t receive education, it’s not their fault.

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      Also, the State of Israel was created right after, and as a direct response, to WWII.

      • No it wasn’t, settlers had been moving into palestine since the late 1800s. The zionists utilised the persecutions of jews in europe to get bodies to staff the frontier sure, but that had also been an established MO since Herzl. The creation of Israel coincides more with the US taking charge of europes colonies and settler projects. Which is why the Lehi and Irgun had to do the terror attacks on the UK in order to establish themselves as a country. They pledged their allegiance to the new white overlord and got rewarded with statehood for it.

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    Germany is the second largest provider of weapons to Israel, and a huge longtime consumer of Russian gas, this is a tonedeaf as hell meme.

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          Please dont mistake the German government for the entirety of Germany. I would say, that the support for Israel has massively decreased, due to their genocide. Our government however, does not fucking care.

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          That DE40 has not been going up since the terrorist act by the US of blowing up NS2 and the ‘sanctions’ on themselves making them buy wildly expensive fracking gas from the US.
          EU can’t compete and their economy is dying.
          BASF, Thyssen-Krupp,etc… all closing down shop and reorganising.
          A nice fertile ground for creating more AfD fascists, exactly the same as in the 1930’s.
          And again the prospect of getting trashed on the eastern front just like their opa’s.

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      They also ditched nuclear energy and stayed over reliant on russian fossil fuel, funding the Russian war machine

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        The nuclear rods in Europe are mainly made with Uranium from Kazakhstan processed in Russia.

        The German failure was not expanding renewables. Getting out of nuclear energy is geopolitically and financially sound.

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          Not when coal and gas fill the void. They can get fuel rods from France, Canada, China. Hell Germany could just refine their own, Niger is looking for trading partners.

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        These nuclear energy zealots are spilling over from r/europe with the same stupid arguments

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          Nuclear energy was the answer between like 1950 and 2010. But the fact that China isnt going all in on nuclear despite having optimal conditions; central planning allows them to predict maximum prices for materials and labor available 5-10 years in advance, the scale allows them to produce reactors more efficiently with better investment in tooling than any other country, and being the workshop of the world ensures higher demand than any other country. They are at <5% nuclear right now and expect <10% by 2035.

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        Now we’re funding the US regime war machine after they blew up NS2 and ‘sanctions’.
        Paying extortion prices for dirty US fracking gas that make companies uncompetitive and causing the economy to collapse.
        The US leeches always profit from war, same as in WW2.

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      Always on the wrong side of history.
      Not a coincidence that fascism and zionism are twins