• Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      No. Leftie infighting is important. Thats why I’m gonna say Thought Slime is sussy af and actually the most annoying leftist of all time.

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      No! We can’t work together with people who want something else just because they call themselves leftists, too

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          There are people I agree with from different leftist traditions, but then again there are people I disagree with on all these traditions, too. I even have overlap with some (lower case) conservative people when it comes to ecological questions

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        Yeah, I’m a leftist, I just think landlords have their place, billionaires are job creators, and if we disrupt the status quo too much the global south might stop giving us resources for nothing- A Great Mind

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            I think exactly that way and am as left as you can be in the Finnish mainstream party system, with the exception of small sub-1% parties like the Communist Party.

            Landlords & Billionaires = living, breathing taxation waiting to happen

            Even if we were to tax a billionaire by 80%, they would probably still be a billionaire. However, they would also indeed be creating jobs, wealth and sustainable growth. School systems, medicine, hospitals, city infrastructure, job placement programmes, you name it, they fund it.

            Corporate tax is also grossly under-utilized.

            Capitalism isn’t bad if you tax it hard and use the money for the welfare of citizens.

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                I’m answering from the perspective of living in a country with functional democracy, so it’s hard to see the power the wealthy have over it.

                Lobbying and representative campaign funding are more transparent here. No party has majority seats alone, coalition governments are a necessity. Legislation is consensus driven.

                Finland is very much operating in a capitalism driven economy while still supplying its citizens socialism driven security.

                Capitalism is like fire. It’s a good tool, but a bad master. With appropriate legislative checks in place, it won’t get out of control.

                In the States it already has, but that doesn’t mean that capitalism is bad. Just that nobody was tending the fire.

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    Right? I’m tired of being called a bro dude because I don’t see sexy women in video games anymore, I’m not even a man.

    I’m left as fuck, but why can’t I just see some titties during my free time without the people who provide me the titties being called misogynists? There are girls who like girls. Show me the titties.

  • 🐱TheCat@sh.itjust.works
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    CHOOSE:

    freedom of thought, but you have to learn to work with people you disagree with slightly or find annoying: left

    uniformity of thought, but you are surrounded by bleating sheep and must bleat along: right

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      It’s always funny when the right start having a lot of infighting because it turns out that “what everyone thinks” turns out to be a personal choice.

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      It cracks me up how antivaxxers on the right try using the slogan “Lions not sheep”. It reminds me of how Fox News used to call themselves “Fair and Balanced”.

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        Really? The right around here is burning books, claiming their religious beliefs should be enshrined in laws forced on others, and openly supporting a wannabe dictator while calling anyone in their party who doesn’t agree a ‘Rino’ (Republica in name only). To say nothing of the connection to churches and their ‘flocks’

        That is a lot of trying to force viewpoints on others and create a uniform viewpoint

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      A lot of younger (louder) leftists are not liberal so they enforce uniform thought in their communities and mock liberals.

      • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Leftism is intersectional. So having communities that agree with one another but disagree with others is often the state of things. One community can get more accomplished if they agree internally. Liberals are not leftists.

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          Majority of people who vote left wing are liberals and most leftwing policy in the west is based in liberal values. It seems to be only a small set of people on the left that are not liberal.

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        Young people of all generations do not have full brains developed yet, they are basic and self righteous until 27ish

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        This is confusing. Liberalism isn’t leftwing, it’s right-of-center at best. Most often it’s right-wing economic policies with socially left-wing ineffectual lip service. Especially with how far right the Democrats have trended since the 80s and their adoption of a corporate focused form of third-wayism. There are only a handful of representatives who could even be considered slightly left-of-center progressives.

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          Tangent, but there’s a lesson with the third way that’s often forgotten.

          It worked.

          Conservatism was way too popular. The country was just not at a point to go further left, as unfortunate as it was. Reagan ushered in an era of conservative dominance that we’re only just now emerging from.

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      The Left, in unison : we are all free-thinking individuals!

      Not like the Right at all.

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        I mean if someone doesn’t want to put in the energy to performatively come to their own opinion, I still think it’s alright if that opinion isn’t “you know, we SHOULD support the boot that wants to stamp on our faces forever!”

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    I don’t think people join the right because they are annoyed by leftists, I think they join the right because they see a bunch of people full of hatred and want to join in because of their self-centered misanthropy.

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      100% they just use being annoyed by leftists to hide their ideological view points. Just wanted to share this cause I thought it was funny.

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    The Left : The Right is to blame.

    The Right : The Left is to blame.

    The Plutocrats : Yessss, squabble my pawns, squabble.

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      It’ll be a cold day in hell before I work with someone that wants people like me removed from all forms of society and/or killed

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      That premise is incorrect, though. Conservatives don’t have political opinions. Seriously. Even the GOP platform doesn’t exist anyone. It’s all just culture war nonsense and dog whistles. And their voters know the “traditional values” white person is being erased and discriminated against and they need to stand vigilantly opposed to wokeness… How do they know? Their feelings.

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    I think this comment sections shows quite well just how much Lemmy is a bubble of leftists.