Edit: Oops, it is /r/Tennessee, not /r/ProgressiveHQ

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Abandon Reddit and leave it as a Government of Putin cesspool filled with Russian shills. If the Volunteer Oblast votes for Van Epstein, fuck them too for protecting pedophiles, rapists and felons.

  • circuscritic@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    I’m personally offended that you’re posting Steve’s personal propaganda claiming he’s a comedian.

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          5 months ago

          Because obviously only MAGA can be bad people. Yeepee China and Russian number one!

          /s needed because we’re on Lemmy

          • MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml
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            I’m not sure if you’re American, but for me as an American Maga impacts my life many times more than china or Russia so maga’s evil is far more relevant in my life. But either way you are doing a lot of whataboutism.

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              The comment I was responding to pretty much said the only abuse is about MAGA stuff. As for whataboutism, idk how you can do better

              I’m not in the USA.

        • Serinus@lemmy.world
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          We have .ml propaganda blaming our only hope of resistance for everything the Nazis do.

          It’s not much different from the projection tactic the GOP use. Just in this case it’s “you didn’t stop it”.

          • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            5 months ago

            Ml dont have much influence and we can easily remove them by blocking or defederating them because no one controls lemmy and that is the beauty of lemmy.

          • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            5 months ago

            That’s fair.

            There’s also a handful of users on other instances that love bashing the dems for not being left enough or something. These are just a few nutters, not really moderators pushing agendas.

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              Those nutters are sometimes mods. Try criticizing Stalin on any lm community, see how fun.

          • MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml
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            5 months ago

            But lemmy allows for various viewpoints unlike reddit which is mostly run by the same mods in every large subreddit.

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      Reddit’s glory days were when it was big enough to have consistently interesting stuff, especially in the niche subs, but not so big that bad actors (corporatization, foreign influence, domestic partisan bots, hate groups) could enshitify it. Now it’s practically unusable.

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      5 months ago

      You think Lemmy is better? Mods here are engaging in the same shitty behaviours. Lack of moderator accountability is a serious issue on this platform.

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        I absolutely have observed mods on Lemmy engaging in the same shitty behaviors (I am sitting on a post about a little cabal of [email protected] people who seem to be trying to rig the discourse in a particular direction to meet their electoral goals). But the simple fact of it being less centralized and more transparent (and with more of a culture of effective pushback against the mods) makes it a lot harder. They can’t just say “lol get fucked” like the mod from this post did and have that be the end of the story.

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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          Plus federation means that the admins can’t just step in and shut down any competing communities unless they are on their instance. And if that happens, it just starts up on another instance.

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          5 months ago

          I’ve seen the mod in that community delete comments that simply disagreed with them or called out their deletions. It’s always “harassment” or something no matter how polite people are being.

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          5 months ago

          Remember when the person behind GamingOnLinux decided to leave Lemmy after someone pointed out their community manipulation tactics in the modlog? Something that you have to assume they had been able to get away with as a Reddit mod. They then took to Mastodon or something to complain about how a public modlog is “bad design”.

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            What kind of agenda would a GamingOnLinux powermod push?

            IMO the biggest flaw is that the mod log doesn’t append a copy of the content that was deleted. It allows mods to just straight up lie.

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              5 months ago

              From what I have seen, removed comments definitely are still visible in the modlog. But if the mod just bans the user instead of removing the comment, all the user’s comments are automatically removed as a result and are not visible in the modlog. All that said, you are correct, this can be abused by moderators who understand the distinction and take advantage of it.

        • SorryQuick@lemmy.ca
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          5 months ago

          But really it’s a human problem. As long as humans get power, they will misuse it. Perhaps not all, but some will.

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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        5 months ago

        Honestly yes, I have not had much problems with mods (and admins!) deleting the words I’ve taken time out of my day to write.

        Free Luigi Mangione!

        • Serinus@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          As part of the LW Community Team, I’ve tried to combat this in a couple ways.

          One is that when we need moderators for a community I don’t just put up a post that says “who wants to mod?” Instead I try to draft specific individuals one at a time who are relevant to that community.

          You wouldn’t believe how many people just tell me no. They have time to post to Lemmy a dozen times a day, but they just don’t have time to mod c/threepostsaweek

          The other is that I try not to just keep recruiting mods we already have. It’s very easy to turn to the people already doing the modding and ask them to pick up just one more, but we’ve seen what that has done to Reddit, and I’d rather not repeat it.

          But all this takes time and effort, and it doesn’t seem to have much effect yet. I probably just need to keep at it.

    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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      I finally left the platform entirely a few months ago, but for a time I maintained an account for discussion on hobby and niche topics. Nothing political, and it would be a real stretch to call any of it controversial. After I got a very dubious account suspension, I just said “fuck it” and moved on.

      Can’t say I miss it either. It’s a fucking cesspool.

  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    They have been playing ads on TV consistently for them. Hers saying she wants to help try to keep health insurance available, not get premiums raised and help the people of Tennessee.

    His saying she’s a radical that was opposed to ICE agents and trying to bully them by blocking them with her car.

    His ads have nothing policy based ever said, because it sounds like none of his policies help the people. I guess he is pro tariffs or something, idk

      • Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 months ago

        In first-past-the-post election systems, campaigning on fear is well established as the winning strategy. In this case the fear the D candidate is playing on - loss of health care access - is more fact-based than the fear the R candidate is playing on - xenophobia - but both campaigns know fear-driven turnout is the only way to win.

        I hope ranked choice voting makes more inroads. I am under no illusion it would break the two party system (Australia has used it for eighty years and still has two main parties), but by making second choices relevant it gives a winning election path to a pro-cooperation, get-things-done style of campaign.

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      5 months ago

      His saying she’s a radical that was opposed to ICE agents and trying to bully them by blocking them with her car.

      Shit, that makes me want to vote for her more than her own ad. Someone willing to personally take action to stop the Gestapo?

  • Zahille7@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    On one hand, I think this is why social media should be introduced to governments in an “official” capacity, kinda like how former Presidents and other officials would use twitter as a way to reach the masses about important news or whatever. There should be “official” accounts that are tied to certain positions that would be used to moderate different communities, such as city- or state-wide ones like r/Tennessee.

    But then, there’s the whole deal of America very quickly spiraling into fascism.

    • blitzen@lemmy.ca
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      5 months ago

      This is where the feta verse could shine. For example, the House of Representatives could have a server, and each member would have a username on that server. Much like how email currently works. It wouldn’t be beholden to the whims of a corporation.

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        Exactly. Like a state-run online community moderated by federal or state workers. That way it would still be kept on-topic but (hopefully) without the power-tripping that usually happens with free-market moderators.

        Ideally there’d be some kind of supervisor/admin above them that they’d report to.

        But again, run by the state and not a company.

        • jaybone@lemmy.zip
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          5 months ago

          But you see how Trump installs his own people in federal jobs and fires people he disagrees with…

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    5 months ago

    If I recall a similar thing happened to the San Antonio subreddit. Something like it was taken over during the mod revolt, and the new mods seem to have very specific interests.

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    5 months ago

    Time to get in touch with Mr. Hoffstetter and point him and his millions of followers in this direction.

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      5 months ago

      Its fucking wild seeing people still talking about how biased reddit is against people on the right. Go onto any big subreddit and you’ll see their no politics rule means no left wing politics.

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        got to fan that flame as much as you can, the entire US right-wing identity is built around making “the left” suffer.

        • Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          It worked to keep gun sales hugely high volume and high profit for decades. “The dems are about to take away your right to buy guns, go buy them now while you can! We’ve said this every election for the last thirty years, but this time it’s serious!”

          It sucks so bad that it’s such a long-term effective strategy. Fighting it would mean figuring out how to regulate both social and traditional media to reduce engagement bait lies, but I don’t know if we have a path to that.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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        Yup. They whine constantly when they’re the ones getting left alone to say whatever horrible racist shit they want.

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        Structurally, I don’t think anything is stopping a conservative safe space community from being spun up on one of the more neutral instances. But if conservatives have mainstream safe spaces already on x, Facebook, reddit, and smaller more extreme places like patriot.win, why would they come to lemmy?

        “Conservative” can mean a really wide variety of things to people who identify that way. Like the other reply to you, I am not sad there aren’t lemmy communities dedicated to celebrating bad things happening to brown or non-Christian people. But it does seem like a hole to be missing discussions of fiscal responsibility (actual responsibility, not the “two Santas” scam) or how to effectively increase the proportion of children in two-parent households (actual increase, not the “redirect welfare money from poor people to middle-class marriage counseling”).

        US conservatism broadly used to have policy pieces I agreed with, but the fake implementation in the times and places they have had power has made me really disillusioned.

  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    “Well, I do mind because I motherfucking live here, and I’m not having a good day. So how about you stop being a fucking knob and answer my question?”