Unwittingly had ‘sex’ with a child, realised it was a child, had ‘sex’ a second time.

And wrote a song about it. And then wrote it into his autobiography.

How this man apparently skated through the #MeToo movement unscathed is truly baffling.

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    A lot of the older rockstars from back in the “everyone was doing it” days seem to not have been affected by MeToo. It’s bizarre, to say the least.

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      I agree with this statement. Having worked in the music industry back then, i see how it happened. Does not make it right, but minors were lying about their ages, using fake IDs and the like. That coupled with a lot of booze and drugs… I am guessing it may not be talked about because no one can actually remember anything. (slight sarcasm)…

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      Well a lot of the obsession over the exact age of 18 is a modern concept. We think of that as a medieval concept, but nope. You just need to go back to the 70s and 80s.

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      It isn’t that bizarre when you consider how poorly enforced these laws are even in the modern day.

      Older, wealthier men pursuing sex with teenagers is a tale as old as time. What’s “bizarre” is MeToo, a sporadic and short-lived effort at changing cultural norms spanning centuries, that was snuffed out by the same cadre of older richer men who feel it is their privilege to fuck kids.

      We live in a patriarchal plutocracy with a puritanical veneer. Not only was “everyone doing it” but everyone is still doing it. Sean Combs was just convicted of sex trafficking a few months ago and has been shopping around the possibility of a Presidential Pardon. Former Congressman and aspiring AG Matt Gaetz was paying for the dental work of a 17-year-old in exchange for sex and has gone unprosecuted. Bill Gates and Elon Musk remain at large.

      The story Kiedis tells is downright wholesome by comparison to the kind of abuse that occurs for the benefit of American sex-tourists in Dominican Republic and Thailand. And go check out the long and sordid history of human trafficking out of Ukraine. The Russia invasion has supercharged exploitation of refugees from the region.

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        It was Steven tyler. I get him confused with Mick Jagger too because they’re both scrawny wrinkly weird-looking men who open their mouths way too wide.

        But Steven Tyler was the one who persuaded the parents of a 13-year-old girl to sign over adoptive custody of her to him, so she became his fuck toy and she eventually got pregnant and Steven went on tour and locked her in an apartment and abandoned her and had the apartment set on fire to try to get rid of the whole problem but she survived and finally started talking about the whole ordeal during the metoo movement.

        And around the time she started talking, he conveniently attempted to reinvent himself as a country singer, trying in vain to shift his renewed publicity into a different direction.

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    If he admitted to this in a book, imagine the shit he’s done that he hasn’t come out yet. Ugh.

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      Ever since i saw that interview of them where they tried to grope and fuck that lady on the air, i was so disgusted that i would never listen to them again. Not that i really did in a long time, but that killed my last desire to care for them at all.

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      I asked myself “how does something so obviously bad for his reputation get in his autobiography?”. I have to presume that raping children was so disgustingly normalised, so tragically banal, that the only reason he brought it up was as a “fun story”, because her father was a police chief and she was reported missing. The fact that she was fourteen was probably only even mentioned to:

      1. Raise the stakes and make the story more exciting
      2. Give him some cover (she only told me afterwards)
      3. Make the story more titillating (and once I knew, I did it again!)

      What a complete asshole.

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    Had sex had sex one more time.

    This is why you never get a tattoo of a band or tv show or any kind of IP.

    Stadium Arcadian, I believe, is one of the best albums of all time and this just tainted all their music.

    Why would he write about this so nonchalantly… Christ.

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    This dude has dated more underage girls than I have fingers. Why do people continue to look the other way?

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        There’s a huge fucking difference between a 20 year old (giving DiCaprio 5 years with the individual before they turn 25) and a 14 year old. A 14 year old has only just developed the ability to think about matters in a non-binary (as in not purely bad or purely good for example) manner, a 20 year old has been able to think that way for nearly a decade. Ones decision making skills are decidedly very poor before about age 25 as the brain is still developing, and that development is still occuring at a breakneck pace at 14 where by 20 it’s slowed significantly. Even if you just look at the years that’s like saying an 8 year old is basically the same as a 14 year old which is obviously not the case.

        Now, it’s definitely kinda weird for someone to go for a 20 year old in their 40s. Having a 25 year age gap between you and your partner is honestly some level of weird at any life stage, but at least by 20 they’re an adult legally and mentally. Anyone over the age of 20 is generally able to understand the risks and consequences of their actions, and while some amount of mistakes are understandable both due to poor decision-making skills and lack of life experiences, it’s nowhere near as drastic as a 14 year old left to their own devices

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        Leonardo DiCaprio (51), whose girlfriend is 27.

        And come the fuck on. I’m a little grossed out on a personal level (as someone who is “only” 40) at being in a relationship with someone that’s 20-25. To me we’d be so culturally different that it would bother me.

        Though that’s probably less of a factor when the culture you’ve been in for decades is the Hollywood lifestyle, unlike the average person who predominantly hangs around with people close to themselves in ages.

        The reality is that they’re both consenting adults and can do whatever the hell they want.

        Fucking a 14 year old is not even in the same universe as fucking a 27 year old. What are you smoking?

        DiCaprio clearly finds women in their mid 20s attractive. Newsflash: most 51 year olds will be attracted to an attractive 27 year old.

        I’ve never quite understood the anger at DiCaprio over this. Women in their 20s are not children. They have brains. They are more than capable of consenting.

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    I was in that scene in the 80d. Been thinking about it a lot lately, it’s hard.

    Bon Jovi’s crew had a designated chaperone, and I thought that was weird at the time. It was cool, though. I do appreciate it now. They wouldn’t allow the drugs or the sex – some roadie crew had that, and others didn’t, there was none of that in my circles, but I heard about the bad ones.

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    People get a little weird in reception towards musicians and the things they do.

    Michael Jackson is a glaring example. Sure, he was the butt-end of decades of jokes until the things he’s done with children got out for everyone to know. But still, there are millions of defenders for him who just simply - look past that. Because reasons.

    And I am sure if more things came out about the rockstars boomers hail as the ‘last generation of good music’ would look past some of the things they’ve done too.

    It’s fucking weird.

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      These were never substantiated. In fact some children came forward and said that their parents coached them to say these things.

      Two takes:

      1. It’s possible that summering happened but could not be proven.
      2. It’s possible that nothing happened at all.

      The circumstances point more to the latter. I personally believe that a bunch of greedy bastards were after money and had no problem destroying someone’s life in the process.

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        That said, he did confess to some pretty weird behaviour with the kids. Like sharing a bed with them. Now maybe nothing happened, but it’s a bit of a red flag.

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      I don’t think any of the MJ “child abuse” claims were ever substantiated or proven and MJ was acquitted in court. The whole thing looked like a smear campaign to dirty his name due to disputes over the rights to music

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    The rest of the band isn’t a whole lot better:

    Then, Balzary and Smith jumped into the crowd. Balzary picked up the woman and began to spin her around on his shoulders, while Smith pulled her bathing suit to one side and began to slap her bottom, Grasso said. Officials said Balzary got on top of the woman, asked her to perform a sex act, then began to simulate the act.

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1990/03/17/Two-members-of-Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-arrested/7434637650000/

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      Also left out the part that this was deeply unconsensual and not an excited groupie.

      ‘I think she sustained the injuries by trying to fight them off, when she was slammed to the ground by one of them. The other bruise she sustained to her leg when the other member tried to rip off her bathing suit,’ said beach ranger Sgt. Ray Caruso.

      Disgusting. PSA to never go to a Chilis concert, fuck them.