I’d hate to be a graduate or junior developer at the moment. It was always rough but the market is rotting from the inside.
The decline of entry level jobs coincides with a rise in the number of senior level jobs across industries, especially project management
That’s about the number of applications i put in for my current job
This system needs to burn
1500 is way overblown in this economy.
Now I doubt they used the same account, but I’d feel obligated to give ‘yaoipilled kai, jellopussy’ an interview at the very least.
That advice only makes the situation worse. If you are applying to 100 postings a week, you are almost certainly applying to jobs you aren’t qualified for, or don’t really want. You’re just playing the numbers game.
On the other side of it, HR departments are getting so many applications from unqualified people who are playing the numbers game, that eventually they just cut off the flow of incoming applications, qualified and unqualified alike.
I’ve often seen my son apply to great jobs that he is absolutely qualified for, and would be great for both himself and the employer, only to get a letter that they have closed applications due to the overwhelming response. If there weren’t so many unqualified applicants pumping up their useless personal numbers, maybe he’d make the cut for interviews, where he can shine, and get the job. But he never gets that far because of unqualified resume spammers bogging down HR.
Everybody should do everybody else a favor, and just apply for the jobs that your are qualified, and want to accept.
Everybody should do everybody else a favor, and just apply for the jobs that your are qualified, and want to accept.
This is what I do. This is also why I’ve been unemployed for more than a year.
A huge issue is companies have u realistic expectations for new applicants when in reality the job isn’t even hard. We all know of the trope of asking for a degree with 5 years experience for an entry level position. That routinely happens and companies think they are being smart by weeding out candidates when all they’re doing is cutting out the best candidates. It’s the companies that don’t want to work. They don’t want to put work and time into finding good candidates.
I think you’re putting too much blame on others rather than the companies themselves. For comp sci, entry level simply doesn’t exist anymore. The lowest amount of experience required is about 2 years now. Chances are if you just graduated, there’s no real entry level job for you.
The recruiter process is also notoriously bad at any part of the application. I had applications straight up ghosted, responses two years after I applied, responses that they already decided to move with another candidate despite the job listing still open, even a 3 hr interview where I was told I would meet the team (as in personality test), only for it to end up as a 3 hr technical. This was back in 2021 2022, and from what I’ve heard, it has only gotten worse.
Half the jobs aren’t even real listings, they are just there so the company looks prosperous (by having job openings) and so they can have your data.
Correct answer and it’s probably way higher than 50% now days.
I applied to 300+ jobs and was picked up by the biggest company I applied to.
If each job takes 30 minutes to apply to, that’s 50 hours per week, assuming you don’t stop to eat or rest. I think my average job application takes a little longer unless I fill it with bullshit answers.
That’s assuming you’re just filling applications. It doesn’t include finding them. I think in the time I was unemployed I passed over a few hundred absolutely reprehensible and morally objectionable positions.
Why so much ghosting? My speculation is perverse incentives of the modern world. Recruiters and HR need to justify their ongoing existence so they open positions that don’t need to get filled so they can spend time filtering candidates. Meanwhile, candidates need to turn to auto filling jobs because and bulk applying because there are so many of these ghost jobs that recruiters who do need people can’t get matched up. This turns into a race to the bottom of automation and counter automation where everyone loses.
There are not even 100 new jobs a week where I live, and that is including absolutely everything. Limiting to something I am vaguely skilled at? Fuck all jobs. About quarter of a million people if you combine the large town and next door city where I live and there is so little to find to apply to. Even worse when jobs give a wrong location name.
Job advertised as being in city with postcode AB1, actual role is in a town that isn’t even on he same island as the city in AB6
that’s fucked
It took me a couple hundred when I got laid off at Christmas last year. Was May before I got hired on again. I did hire an AI spamming service towards the end and I did start getting interviews off it, but ultimately found something on indeed. I still leave the spamming service running because, fuck HR and fuck their stupid systems, break them and make them figure out something else.
You need to not live in that area, or work that career.
I lost my job about a year before you did. Applied to maybeeee 10 places? I think fewer. Didn’t even finish some of the take-home assignments because, honestly, my partner at the time was just riding me so hard I wanted to die and nothing else. Almost got one job - but the company ended up restructuring.
Ended up getting an unsolicited message from a recruiter 3 months into unemployment, took that job. Then one of the recruiters whose take-home I didn’t complete emailed me to say hey we probably want you anyway, do you wanna discuss? I said sorry, not this time - I got an enticing job offer already. “Ok, congratulations! Feel free to let me know if it doesn’t work out though”
Actual genuine nightmare fuel. This is not a lifestyle conducive to human health. Living this way is killing us.
yea well they deserve to be flooded with AI applications so just give them what they earned
He’s right but he shouldn’t be right.
I both envy and pity those that can and need to blast out applications like this. There aren’t 1500 open positions in my field in the country. As someone who struggles with doing nothing, application grinding would resolve a lot of anxiety.
There aren’t even 1500 open positions where I live, let alone in the same field. Most common is minimum wage care work, then random assortment of skilled/unskilled roles.
If you’re sending out 1500 a week you have no identifiable skill set beyond existing. 1500 jobs that are relevant to 1 individual aren’t being posted every week.
I wasn’t even reading job descriptions last time. I just indiscriminately applied to everything and only read about the positions that replied back with a maybe. If they don’t allow the LinkedIn auto-apply, then I’m not filling out a form on their special unique website.
This is their problem, not mine.
That’s the thing: 1500 job listings does not mean 1500 jobs exist.
Half are companies that realized posting fake listings works as free marketing on LinkedIn. It’s a real strategy: people start subscribing to their newsletter because LinkedIn offers that by default when you apply, and when somebody looks the company up, it creates the illusion they’re booming and expanding.
Then of the remaining half, a half of that are fake listings that are actually AI companies that get you to record five minutes of audio and take a picture during your “application” and under the fine print you’re allowing them to use your voice and resell it. Not joking.
Then you do have the remainder which are the real jobs. Of that remainder, more than half will be evaluated by an AI which may or may not take your skills into consideration, understand the formatting of your resume or even fully appreciate what the position entails.
Welcome to 2025, don’t you love it? You need to answer that you love it by the way because we are monitoring your social media accounts and we have three cameras in your street and we don’t like answers that bring the spirit down.
You’re forgetting the portion that are real jobs, but they already know they’re just changing an existing employee’s job title, but HR makes them post a job for it anyway to seem fair.
Dont forget the H1B ones. To hire (at half salary) a foreigner, by law they need to prove that the job cannot be done by a US employee. So they post a fake opening, with those “entry level 15 years experience in afield that existed 10 years” to justify the hiring
Or they’re hiring a relative but have to go through the motions of pretending to do the candidate search process.
Don’t forget H1Bs where they have to ‘prove’ that there are no suitable domestic candidates first
Good point.
Oh look! Living on a couple of euros of passive income looks really enticing all of a sudden!
Right this is what frustrates me there literally aren’t that many jobs to apply for unless you’re applying to literally every cashier job around you. And for people in small towns even that option doesn’t exist. Even 10 years ago people would send me links to jobs that were obvious scams on Indeed and they’d say “see! There ARE jobs!”
Pretty sure that they would counter, that if you’re not willing to relocate to literally anywhere at no notice and at your own expense you don’t really want to work. 1500 per week is simply not possible unless you’re looking nationally if not internationally depending on the industry.
That’s true if you’re living at your parents house and not in a serious relationship, the world is your oyster. But if that’s the case you’re probably looking for entry level work and good luck paying rent on that salary.
Well you need to send 1500 out because only 30 of the 1500 exist and you have no idea which that is.
I generally agree but what that said is 100 per week.
not much better but it’s a bit of a shame that a whole thread with much attention did not notice and just copied from the first comment
Yea I noticed that I misread a little while ago but left it. The comment is still accurate, 1500 a week is way too many.
Yeah, no thanks. I choose a life of poverty instead. Enjoy your grind in a collapsing system.
Poverty for me means losing access to the medicines that keep me alive, or I would be right there with you. I wish I could just be a hobbit subsistence farmer so bad but I got bills 🥲 So I keep turning the crank until another option becomes viable.
