Guy shoots down Elon’s brainless submarine rescue idea
Musk: What a pedo guy!
Guy posts actual CP to Twitter (sorry, I’m not gonna call it X)
Musk: This is fine.
sorry, I’m not gonna call it X
I have mixed feelings about this one.
Should I call it X because all that was cool about Twitter is now dead so it would make sense to stop giving that terrible social network any credit from the former one?
Or should I continue to call it Twitter because I know it will infuriate Musk that no one recognise X as his own company?
Or should I use a totally different name that everybody will understand, like say The dead bird, and kill two birds with one stone?
Nah, Musk has been trying to co-opt the 24th letter of the alphabet for 30 years, he’s a wannabe Steve Jobs and he wants his own one letter legacy.
The only thing the rebranding has done is make Twitter an X-platform (pun intended).
The Social Media Site Formerly Known As Twitter
TSMSFKAT
Rolls right of the tongue
Tiss-Miss-Fah-Kat
The ex parrot
It’s just pining for the fjords
“The birdsite” is a pretty common one.
Indeed.
I had it in mind TBH
But “bird site” doesn’t sound as bad as “dead bird”
Do what Elon does with his kid. Dead name it to annoy Elon. Also shame on him for dead naming and misgendering his own child.
Calling it Twitter is a reminder that the product/site used to be pretty interesting instead of a broken right wing child sex abuse platform
Twatter?
you wouldn’t really be killing 2 birds with 1 stone. You’d be beating a dead bird with the stone, though
Don’t forget Musk roleplays as a baby with multiple sub accounts.
Dude is a creeeeeeeeeep
Wait, multiple? I “only” knew about Elon Test, there’s more?
If he tried to hide one, he definitely has a bunch.
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Roleplay?.. “Sub”-accounts?.. And here I thought he only was shitposting on main.
Pretty sure it’s “wow, that was S3XY! We’ll leave your account open so you can send me some more”.
Why be sorry?
Probably Canadian
Little known fact: You can be sorry without being Canadian.
Sorry
I didn’t realize that, sorry
As a Canadian, I just wanted to pop in and say I’m sorry
S O R E Y
Non-Canadians are just noticeably less likely to tell someone.
Call it ten
Ooooooh…
Actually, it could turn out pretty well for the dead bird so I won’t
Don’t you fucking dare besmirch Pearl Jam’s debut album like that.
Ten gonna give it to ya!
While the media posted by the influencer has been removed, numerous text interactions with the deleted posts from his followers are still on the platform. Some of those posts mention a child depicted in the photos as young as one and a half years old.
To make matters worse, the image appears to have been on the platform for several days before being removed. Lucre even described the image in detail in a separate tweet, noting that it had been taken from a video. The video in question involved the abuse of three children, one of whom was reportedly strangled to death after the filming.
The CSAM material was left up for FOUR DAYS (July 22-26) before he was even suspended. Then they let him “delete” it…and reinstated him. People commented during those 4 days DESCRIBING THE IMAGES.
What the FUCK please tell me this is worth a visit from the FBI, getting removed from the App Store, some massive GDPR violation, fucking something. How is this story not bigger news?
To put this in perspective, 4 graphic CSAM images that an account with 500,000 followers posted were left up on Twitter for 4 days. The person who posted the images was suspended for less than a day.
Content warning: I deliberately avoid providing much more detail than “it was clearly CSAM” but I do mention the overall tweet contents and pretext.
I remember this from when it happened and unfortunately did see the text portion and thumbnail from the original tweet.
He did it under the pretext of reporting on the arrest of a person involved in the video and large-scale CSAM production. It started as a standard news-report-style where they list the name, age and arrest details of someone taken into custody. Initially it looked like the normal alt-right tweet about “look at how paedophilia is rampant and the world is sinful!”.
The guy describes himself as “chief trumpster” and a “breaker of narratives” and journalist. He claimed the details of the CSAM were provided by the Dutch police. He then described the title and detailed events of a CSAM video in the tweet. Unfortunately for me, the detailed events were below the tweet fold, so I had no idea it was going there until I expanded it.
The tweet image attachment or link unfurl thumb had a frame from the video itself. It was an otherwise-SFW image the adult abuser who was being talked about. Unfortunately I didn’t realise until after I had expanded the tweet text contents what the thumbnail was. I actually thought it was an opengraph error at first.
Even in the context of “reporting shocking content” the tweet was way over the line and went from 0 to 100 in a few words. I did not need the info on the CSAM, nobody except the police and courts does. The video title alone was over the line.
Musk phrasing this as another “I was told” decision is just him knowingly deferring responsibility.
Thank you for the additional context. I’m sorry you had to be exposed to that.
Thanks, it was partly my fault for taking a curiosity tour of Twitter to see whether there was a noticeable right-wing shift from a few months earlier.
Hopefully I can at least prevent someone from having to go try to find the context for themselves and finding the full tweet, because it was awful even as text.
I assumed there would be “they took it out of context!” apologia when it was inevitably reported on, but the actual context didn’t improve anything or abdicate anyone from responsibility.
My heart goes out to the human moderators at twitter who had to see more of it and didn’t have the choice to bail before learning more. And obviously also to the victims of one of the most heinous acts I’ve ever heard about.
Thank for this. Seeing this explained this whole thing makes much more sense. Not in a good way, but I now understand. Edit: fixed typo
For what it’s worth, I had no idea if it was the absolute worst journalistic judgement I have ever seen, or a way for him to find more CSAM, or some bizarre combo. That is something for the FBI to find out. But I do know the decision to unban him is beyond wild, even for someone trying to bankrupt a social media company. Text almost never makes me physically recoil.
Yeah, even if we give them the benefit of the doubt that it was a bad attempt at journalism, there’s no reason to defend them. Also bizarre that Elon would even get involved in it.
Do I want to know what CSAM stands for?
Child sexual assault material, unfortunately.
Yep. Didn’t want to know that.
Unfortunately, it’s a term everyone should know. It “replaces” the label child porn, because while it’s universally known as horrible, it’s not “porn.” It’s evidence of child sexual abuse. Hence “child sexual abuse material.”
Right. Porn implies acting and consent.
Correction: child sexual abuse material. Basically it’s better than the term “child porn” because it’s not literally not porn. Porn is literally created by consenting adults
I didn’t use the term porn at all…
the screenshot says ‘child porn’. You said the A stands for “assault” when it actually stands for “abuse”.
You spent half your response “correcting” me for use of the the term porn, which I did not use. Respond to the OP for that. That’s all I’m saying.
Is it pernounced KaZAM! ?
Because it was one image and it wasn’t showing anything explicit. That’s how I understood it from reading more about this story.
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Dude, he posted it to highlight how evil it is. Maybe it was a stupid thing to do but that’s the extent of it.
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You’re evil
Remember all that nonsense the media was posting about Mastodon being a haven for illegal porn? Almost feels like a smear campaign to defame an up and coming X/Twitter competitor.
Most online platforms are susceptible to hosting CSAM and Mastodon deserves to be scrutinized and investigated for it as much as the rest. The problem with a million decentralized instances is a million different people in charge of detecting and eliminating CSAM from their platforms, and it’s going to be a challenge as this platform grows.
Facebook has the most csam of any website, but I hardly ever see the same fear mongering from the media. Odd.
they (the anti-porn lobby, such as NCOSE aka Morality in Media, that portrays themselves as being child protection) target the porn sites (even though porn sites do a damn good job of fighting abusive material) because “oh noes porn” while completely ignoring sites like facebook that have way more csam
Facebook is ubiquitous now and is therefore beyond reproach. It exceeds the scope of everything.
You hear about Meta cracking down on csam in the media but not Twitter. Odd.
likely because it’s not happening on twitter, as evidenced by the post
Bingo. Meta, for it’s horribleness, at least makes an effort to be less horrible. Elon… Doubles down on the horrible.
How does Apple not look at this and take the app off of their store?? Come on, Tim Apple
John Mastadon would have removed the app in a heartbeat.
Context?!
Some conservative account posted some CP content, got suspended by Twitter and Elon deleted the tweets and re-instated the account.
Where is the FBI lol
Why isn’t any of this surprising?
Yeah that’s not good, he should’ve been perma banned. And I hope authorities learn where he got the CP.
No, you see it isn’t illegal if you are conservative.
Yup, conservatives are Good Guys so their deeds are Good.
So I looked into this some more, he apparently posted a screenshot from a really infamous child torture video called Daisy’s Destruction, it was a screenshot of the toddler actually being tortured on her foot. I had no idea this video even existed online, he claims that he got it/the screenshot from the Dutch Police. He also might have posted a naked picture of Daisy on Peter Scully’s lap. He also apparently posted it on Instagram where it is still up but I don’t want to check whether that’s true. That is insane wtf is wrong with him
Well this took me down a Wikipedia rabbit hole I really shouldn’t have fallen
I have morbid curiosity but I won’t be touching that. The short description alone is already too much.
That is wise. Don’t even look up the name of the guy.
My life is worse off for having read this comment. It’s needs a spolier alert or something. I’m just sick.
Reinstated so that the FBI can investigate I hope …
Reinstated because it’s a Republican account I suspect …
This is the worse timeline.
Shoulda made a hard left back in 2015
Preach
“people who claim to be religious fanatics are pedos” isn’t a new thing.
A tale as old as time
Please don’t misuse the word pedophile as a synonym for child sexual abuser. Public health experts warn that doing so misleads the public about the causes of abuse, and impedes abuse prevention https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/women-who-stray/202009/performative-rage-over-pedophilia-doesnt-protect-kids
okay, they’re psycho rapists.
nice to know you don’t actually give a shit about protecting kids. You sound like a great person (that’s sarcasm btw). You don’t care about the scientific evidence that will allow us to actually protect kids. You only care about your feelings. (for the record, the scientific evidence says that most people that sexually abuse kids are not pedophiles. Most pedophiles are, like everyone else, law-abiding citizens just trying to live their life)
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Wtf !!
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Actual CP
In a place where a piece of text can incorporate, a drawing has human* rights.
(*not applicable to actual humans)
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Your ignorance doesn’t excuse your language.
Ask politely and you might learn which country meets what I said.
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That’s not really the context. Need to see what that tweet (if it’s even real) is responding to.
QAnon people are posting photos of child sexual assaults “to raise awareness” because they’re too fucking stupid to realize that’s still insanely illegal and you don’t get to rob banks to raise awareness of bank robbers. (Or they’re just pedophiles trying to share images via a loophole that doesn’t exist.)
One prominent conservative guy got flagged by Twitter and had his account suspended. Elon claims only a few employees saw the image but that turned out to be a lie. It was up for 4 days and had something like 8000+ RTs and 1.3 million views. Elon basically intervened and unsuspended the guy’s account.
Also, if you’d like additional context, [insert photo of Musk with Gislaine Maxwell].
Additional context:
I know when pedophiles tried to normalise pedophilia on Twitter by associating themselves with the LGBT community or by coming up with that nomap bullshit. I would assume they are just that. Pedos.
Also, it is widely known that pedos project like motherfuckers. That teenage billionaire sure threw those accusations around a lot.
Well to be fair his father is a well-known groomer and pedophile.
Please don’t misuse the word pedophile as a synonym for child sexual abuser. Public health experts warn that doing so misleads the public about the causes of abuse, and impedes abuse prevention https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/women-who-stray/202009/performative-rage-over-pedophilia-doesnt-protect-kids
that literally didn’t happen. that was a 4chan scam.
Also, just gonna put this here: Please don’t misuse the word pedophile as a synonym for child sexual abuser. Public health experts warn that doing so misleads the public about the causes of abuse, and impedes abuse prevention https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/women-who-stray/202009/performative-rage-over-pedophilia-doesnt-protect-kids
QAnon people are posting photos of child sexual assaults “to raise awareness”
Say sike right now.
Please.
Or is it because they think they are being clever and think that they can get away with it as long as they are yelling loudly enough about how much it disgusts them.
conteXt?
The Brand X social media site living up to its name.
Reminder: Musk himself has an alt account where he ERPs as a toddler
Not just just any toddler. His own kid
I am scared to ask but at the same time I have a need to substantiate claims… So regretfully. Source?
If you search “elon musk roleplay son” you can find several screenshots and news sites reporting on it.
Note: while OP says “ERP”, it’s not really erotic (apart from wishing to go to night clubs). Still creepy as F
I had to figure out what ERP meant in this context because I was just picturing some poor kid trying to use SAP.
Thanks for not sharing what you learned lol
I think it’s meant to be role play of an erotic nature.
“Why does nobody want to advertise on my site anymore?”
It’s like literally everything he’s done is to deliberately tank the company and lose billions of dollars.
Almost like it’s on purpose…
Maybe after a few too wrong moves, he’s trying to tank the company and make people think he’s doing it on purpose so he could say that all this time he’s been doing it on purpose. On purpose on purpose.
or he’s actually just sabotaging one of the largest western social networks through weaponizing his gross incompetence
I believe that all of these major players are being controlled at almost gunpoint into destroying their platforms and making horrible business decisions (facebook, twitter, youtube, etc).
They overextended in an era of easy money. Belts tighten and they still want to hit their growth targets, so they take away some sesame seeds.
I think people are realizing they don’t really like the burger as much as they used to.
“I’m so great, I can bankrupt a multibillion dollar company and lose tens of billions of dollars of my own money!”
Weird flex, but ok
Don’t attribute to malice what can easily be attributed to ignorance
True, but I don’t think one prohibits the other.
I’d also add that a defense of ignorance becomes harder to attribute his moves to when he is surrounded by people who inform him. Choosing not to listen to them seems malicious.
At this point they could have but a giant brown bear in charge of twitter. Gave it free reigns to eat whoever it likes and twitter would still be more successful and have a less damaged brand. Like is Elon actively trying to run it into the ground?
I don’t think he is. See, he’s lived his entire life in a world without consequences, and he’s never actually been a good businessman, and certainly never invented anything. But he’s built his own little brand around pretending he’s both and not a con man who was scamming carbon credits to boost the stock price of his flagship company.
At some point, he started to believe his own branding. After all, he must be a good businessman if he’s the richest man in the world, right?
As a note, Bernie Madoff had a net worth of almost $70 Billion at his peak. He was one of the richest men in the world.
Given the other typos, this might just be another, but in case it’s an error and you might want to use the phrase some other place where it matters:
It’s “give it free rein” like a horse you’re letting choose its own path and pace, rather than a monarch who would “reign.”
You could let a bear reign over all Musk’s properties with better results than he’s having, but it would be a different sentence.
Both reign and rein can be nouns or verbs:
The Fed is trying to “rein in” inflation.
The “reign” of King Charles the Turd has barely begun.
(Sorry, my inner schoolmarm slipping out.)
You sound insufferable. You went on a multi paragraph rant to correct a strangers spelling on the internet. Wow.
I think you misread my tone. As I said at the start, “in case… you want to use the phrase some other place where it matters.” That kind of innocent error can impact one’s success when at work or in an essay.
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Yes, that’s exactly what he’s trying to do. The sooner he runs it into the ground, the less money he’s going to lose.
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I think any smart run company left Twitter the moment Elon took over (in his own eclectic way carrying a kitchen sink).
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/17/tesla-elon-musk-thailand-diver-pedo
Just one, one drop in a sea of lunacy and megalomania. But that’s Elon. Now if this guy took over a company that directly impacted your profits, what would you do?
The real sad thing is that even if he is the Yahoo to Tumblr, it won’t impact him one iota. He’ll still be rich as all creation and people will still fawn over him and listen to what he has to say.
It doesn’t really matter, but wasn’t it a bathroom sink?
It was.
Ehhh I’m reading some very amusing speculation about his finances.
I swear, I thought it was a joke until I actually saw his tweet on the platform
Terrible decision from Elon.
At least he’s consistent
May be it is his sources. He can’t reject that. Or may be they have threatened to leak about him.
What a horrific place they have over there.