Note: the MacOS part is false
So this is how MS weaponize autism…
So, first of all, I’m not sure everyone here knows who Dave Plummer is nor that he’s fairly open about his being autistic.
(For those that don’t know, he’s the guy mostly responsible for the classic Windows Task Manager and a whole bunch of other things that appeared in Windows back in the day. His YouTube videos are an interesting watch every now and again.)
Second, folks are going to find this to be in bad taste whether they know he’s autistic or not.
Why are people like this? If you didn’t like what a company is doing, didn’t use their products.
Because the network effect makes it so we all are forced to use this shit at work.
That’s not the network effect though. It’s a top down decision. If the higher-ups decide you’re switching to Hannah Montana OS, you’re all switching to it, regardless of what people outside the company is using.
Because Linux support depends on more people using it. So we have to blow up outrage and make more people mad enough to switch
The important shit just works. Linux desktop is still a mess.
sigh…ok I’ll take one for the team and eat the bait
which Linux desktop?
Most of them will have their issues. I’ve gone through Debian and Ubuntu over the years, both gnome and kde. Latest is bazzite gnome with deck os.
Issues: no HDMI sound detected. Needed to find and specify a device idwhich has periodically changed on update.
Had to configure both deck mode and gnome to use my display. Wouldn’t default to an HDMI device and in deck you can’t configure it outside of .confs
In both gnome and deck mode if the monitor is turned off, it can’t be detected when you turn it on. I need to physically unplug my HDMI cable. I’m sure this is doing wonderful things to my GPU.
Bluetooth, basically unusable. Getting devices paired is hit or miss and connected devices have periodic latency of over a second.
I cannot play some games in 4k on deck mode. I assume I have to create a new display conf but haven’t gotten around to it. 4k works fine in gnome. I’m missing HDR on gnome though, and no vrr anywhere.
I’m running standard hardware. A 3080, 12700k, and my MSI 590 tomahawk is a GN recommended buy for a mid range mother board.
You actually don’t need to setup an Apple ID to startup a Mac.
Maybe the idiot meant iOS?
They don’t make it very obvious but you can skip Apple ID sign-in during the iOS setup assistant too (unless they changed that in iOS 26)
Source: worked Apple support for years until recently
You don’t need an Apple ID to setup an iPhone either.
Yep, kinda funny how even Apple is more lenient in this way. The only downside is that you can’t install stuff from the App Store but that’s basically a non issue.
Yeah, for a Mac you can generally install anything you need from the devs website.
iPhone not so much, but you don’t need an ID for that either, technically.
It’s not an awful take to say something like “Hey, you can get around this requirement by creating a burner account, then creating local accounts”. His wording is a bit off but he’s an odd guy, who also used to scam people, so this isn’t that bad in the grand scheme. He’s also heavily biased to windows.
On the topic of the account, I moved to Linux and I threw an LTSC build of Windows 10 on another nvme drive so I could play a couple games that use anti cheat. I figure by the time that’s no longer supported developers will just accept Linux in their games or i won’t care anymore.
How did he scam people? <citation needed>
Idk about you guys but I got sick of using an os that obviously doesn’t want me to use it.
Total time delta 🐱
The only thing you need a Microsoft account for is to play Minecraft. And use other Microsoft products and services that Microsoft keeps pushing their terrible account system on.
You can actually download and play minecraft without a Microsoft account in multiple ways.
You can. It is in fact possible to play Minecraft without any code from Microsoft, as there are alternative implementations for both the frontend and the server. You can’t play on regular servers that way, though.
With Windows 10 eol coming up, I installed Bazzite on my buddies computer. All he uses it for is games, browser and editing the occasional document. The transition has been really seemless so far, and he is not technologically adept in the slightest.
Linux is really mature nowadays. I spent like five hours getting my NIC to work back in 2006 on my laptop. Now, it all seems to work pretty seamlessly. For people who just want to use a basic GUI and press “install” buttons, I think it’s perfectly fine.
It’s even simpler than I stalling windows.
Ima start making charcoal wood, gathering mesquite as I wander about the southwestern part of our country for the rest of eternity.
Yeah but the demographic that will do this is like infinitesimally small. It’s fine, techies always know how to stick it to the man, but they succeed with most people so they get what they want. Not a dispute just a comment.
You don’t even need Microsoft burner account
yup oobe/bypassnro
You don’t even need that anymore. I just spun up and bunch of VMs and all you need is a domain join. It doesn’t prompt for anything anymore.
Not a Windows user myself but isn’t setting up a domain a pretty complicated process? Especially if you only want to bypass the account requirements. You would need another system running windows server or spin up a samba DC.
No, you don’t need a domain. You just have to select that option to avoid signing up for an account. They must have changed it, because it’s super simple now. I spun up like ten Windows 11 VMs last week using this method.
Got it. It might be limited to windows 11 pro though, since the home version can’t join domains I believe.
*so far
Until they alter the deal, again
Microsoft will continue to eliminate workarounds. Copilot needs your data for training purposes. Snapshot, Onedrive, mandatory accounts, are all ways of forcing users to give up their data.
I personally think the workarounds are an intentional strategy to drip feed the “power users” and make them stop complaining/switching away. it also probably works to make them feel smart.
like do you seriously fucking believe ms would unintentionally leave
oobe\bypassnroas a command you can type?? this is some Hollywood hacking type shit
Isn’t the second sentence incorrect? You can force local account creation by running oobe\bypassnro to bypass the internet connection requirement which lets you create a local account instead. And at least on the Pro(?) version it can be bypassed by choosing the Domain account option even if the PC won’t be joined to any domain. It just creates a local account. I have to deal with Win 11 installations as part of my job and this is the way I’ve been doing it.
All this is not to defend M$’ attempt to force this bullshit on the users. I’m a Linux user and steer clear of M$ products whenever and wherever I can. Just wanted to point out an M$ account isn’t necessary to setup Win 11. (Unless these workarounds are only possible in the Pro version?)
oobe\bypassnro was disabled in Windows 10 by an update 2-3 years ago, it doesn’t work in Windows 11 at all.
I installed Windows 11 Pro 24H2 yesterday and the oobe\bypassnro trick worked for me. You just have to make sure no ethernet cable is connected. Then if you tell the installer you have no internet, it’ll let you create a local account.
