This and waiting for Ronnie to end the world with the push of a button.
I’m old and I remember people smoking on airplanes and in hospitals. An older nurse has told me she remembers staff smoking in the nurse’s station, and another older nurse told me she used to follow the pediatrician she worked with around the hospital trying to catch his ashes in an ashtray while he rounded on sick children. My own parents used to make us ride in the car with the windows rolled up smoking like fiends.
Oh man, I remember the first time I was in a hospital to visit someone as a kid and going down to the cafeteria and seeing doctors and nurses down there smoking. It was weird to me even then.
Patients these days vape in their hospital beds!
I wouldn’t use anything that I have to breath out into a hospital room but I will say I bring my off brand zyn when I get put in for more than a night. All my local will give you is a 2mg nicorette every 2 hours and you have to ask each time. It’s absolutely torture to be withdrawing in a hospital.
Some hospitals will give you nicotine inhalers which help much more.
GOOD. TO. FUCKING. KNOW! I have something super wrong with my gut and end up in there for days at a time a few tiya year lately. Sucks.
In my hospital we do it. We have a ward where the patients can’t leave the room at any time because they’re there for continuous diagnostic testing, so this is how they keep the smokers in place.
Seriously? That’s allowed?
It depends. Might be against hospital policy, but it also depends on the circumstances and staff that catch you.
Get caught vaping nicotine after surgery while on oxygen and an RN catches you? Problem.
Get caught vaping THC, not on oxygen on oncology/hospice? Depends on the staff whether they’ll notice it or not.
No, they just do it when nobody is looking.
The library my wife runs has detectors in the bathroom that let them know if someone is vaping in there, so hospitals might too these days.
They don’t. Source-worked in hundreds of hospitals.
Funny. You would think if a library does it, hospitals would. But then I guess most hospitals are run by corporations that don’t want to spend any more money than they absolutely have to.
Those things don’t work.
Source: vaped in damn near every bathroom I’ve used for the last 13ish years.
They work in my wife’s library because she’s told me about it.
And any furniture you moved showed you the original color of the wall and how the smoke had yellowed everything
In my town, there are mostly electric vehicles nowadays. I was out walking along a larger road in my neighborhood when I noticed a bus and two cars passing each other, and it suddenly hit me that earlier in my life, that would have been a very noisy affair, but it wasn’t. I also realized how much the world used to smell like gas. And does anyone else remember the rainbow colored gas puddles you used to see and smell in parking lots? I don’t remember the last time I saw any of those.
Then I realized there is a world where my kids can grow up outside of noise pollution, cigarette smoke and car fumes, and it made me a little more hopeful about the future.
What town do you live in that has more electric cars than gas powered? Doesn’t sound believable; but if it is, then that’s fuckin’ sick.
93.9% of new cars sold in Norway are EVs, a further 5% are hybrids.
I don’t know what that translates to in terms of cars currently on the road though. But that’s also stats for the whole country. You can imagine in a relatively affluent area where there are mostly new cars the vast majority of them are probably EVs.
Scandinavia, like that guy guessed, is right
I’d guess in Scandinavia
I guess France has a city with ONLY electric vehicles. Only have 27 people living there though lol
I remember those puddles. You’re right I haven’t seen them in years.
Are you from the future?
Remember playing in those fucking puddles? Swimming and them? Eating fish from them?
Well, the bigger ones.
Do people not maintain their cars cause ive only seen gasoline puddles out in the desert from folks rupturing their tanks while offroading. That should not be frequent enough for it to be normal.
Old cars must have leaked more frequently without it breaking them, because I can remember oily puddles under parked cars quite a lot from my childhood (which was in the 90s).
Huh, maybe cars are just better maintained in my region or maybe the environment is harsher to cars in your region. And yeah old cars will be like “I just shot out two of my cylinders through the hood, only lost 20% efficiency!”
My first job as a waiter had a smoking section. Was banned just a year later but imagine being forced to work in that condition.
The smoking section was coveted because smokers drank more, hence better tips.
I don’t think drinking slowed down one bit just because smoking was removed indoors.
Probably not, but that is a separate thing from the proportion of drinks sold in the section being higher while it existed.
Per capita alcohol consumption peaked in the US between 1975-1985
I remember when I was a kid all the restaurants had ashtrays on the table. Even McDonalds and Burger King had little aluminum ashtrays on the tables. You could have your cheeseburgers with a side of secondhand smoke.
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All my pals being ‘caught’ smoking cigs bc their parents had the sense of ‘smell’.
My parents would ask me about smoking whenever I came back from my neighbor’s house. I always thought it was a ridiculous question because I thought smoking was disgusting as a child. But, I guess the stank of the neighbor’s house would stick to me after being there for a few hours, and they were making sure I wasn’t puffing away. Good thing they didn’t know the smell of weed 🫤
My flight was overbooked and the airline was giving 500$ to stay one more day. The only available seat on the next day flight was in the smoking section. It was one of the most uncomfortable flights I have ever had. I don’t know if the 500$ was worth all the second hand smoke I inhaled. The corridor was cloudy.
Ever get booked into a smoking hotel room? Just awful. Really hard to get to sleep.
Life is tough when you have to trade a price discount for a cancer chance premium.
it made for really great sports photography though
You’re fucking with me, that was all cigarettes? I was growing up just after it was getting banned and winding down so I wasn’t really around for the worst of it.
I mean cigars and pipes as well, but yeah
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fog machines and hazers exists. no need for dry ice
so I’m watching WWE NXT right now, and it has the haze. I’m pretty sure it’s from the pyrotechnics
I don’t notice at other professional wrestling events because they’re either much larger venues, or the places that perform in smaller venues don’t have WWE’s pyrotechnics budget. even AEW has noticeably quieter pyro
Not old enough for this, but growing up I had a friend with parents who were heavy smokers. It made a weird relationship in my brain that cigarette smell is related to friends, so for years everytime I smelled a cigarette it would give me some weird nostalgia.
Eventually I tried 1 cigarette and it made me sick lol
My message to people thinking about trying smoking:
If you try a cigarette and you don’t like it, it’s a shitty experience. If you try a cigarette and do like it, that’s much worse.
There’s no upside.
And, for friends who currently smoke, the best line of attack I’ve found is: “You really like giving awful companies like Philip Morris your hard-earned money?”
My message to people thinking about trying smoking:
my message:
literally why, it’s a waste of time, money, and it’s socially unacceptable, literally do anything other than smoke.
Smoking is something you literally have to develop a taste for. I’ve never heard of anybody who got hooked off of one cigarette.
AIDS. So much AIDS. There’s a famous photo from 2018 with the men in black representing the original members of the San Fransisco Gay Men’s Choir lost to AIDS and men in white representing those who did not die to AIDS.
Fuck Reagan, and Fuck Trump for trying to make COVID that bad.
Cigarettes and lead fumes.
And people don’t understand why there are so many MAGA folks.
My entire generation is filled with people who have never read a book since high school. It used to baffle the hell out of me, and then I learned about how bad the lead saturation in our environment really was back then. Not to mention just how bad the bullying was. Seriously the GPA and graduation rates of my high school precipitously improved just one year after my graduation year. Between the “whole learning” fad in the 80s and lead, it’s a miracle I can even spell my own name.
As a kid in the '80s, it was just the way some things smelled. Neither of my parents smoked by the time I was born, but lots of neighbors and others did. I later became a smoker and couldn’t smell it anymore. When they finally banned smoking in Ohio, I quit and we learned what bars really smelled like (as I mentioned in a related thread: body odor, mold, and piss).
Edit 2: I worked at a fast food place in '95 or '96 and we had a smoking section, but also all the employees smoked in the tiny break area as well so it came from both sides. I would start smoking not long after this.
it’s weird to think that there’s bad and dangerous smells today that we don’t even think about
I had to go back into Tokyo the other day from where I live in the countryside. The air definitely has some kind of smell. We do burn a lot of trash for electricity in Japan, but I’m not sure what it actually is. The diesel exhaust here bothers me a lot for some reason even though I think I liked the smell of it as a kid in the US. Not sure what that’s about.
in cities its likely to be smells from places of businesses, homes, and people, as well as things like gas and diesel.
Unsure how relevant burning garbage would be, depends on how clean they burn and how well they pull out particulates i guess. Worth doing some reading on later perhaps.
In places like NYC its not uncommon to get sewer gas venting in the streets, you also have rats, garbage, and some amount of homeless people in the more populated areas obviously.
I would also probably be inclined to argue that a significant part of the “city smell” is also likely to be the lack of country smell, there’s all kinds of shit out there, sometimes literally, most of the time it’s just shit like foliage. Wet rotting organic material really carries through the air.
quick edit: as for diesel, engines burn the fuel a lot more completely today, a lot of modern diesels also burn DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) to capture some of the more aggressive particulates that cause pollution and other issues. If an older 60’s 70’s car drives right be you, you get a face full of gas exhaust and you can smell it. Modern car exhausts mostly smell like death because they burn basically everything they can. There’s also a lot less particulates so it doesnt spread as much.
and obviously, the formulation of gas has changed over time, same for diesel probably.
51yo here, can confirm. Can also confirm smoking flights.
I smoke but smoking in an airplane sounds absolutely ridiculous. Can’t believe people tolerated that.
Not just cigarettes. Old, stale cigarette smoke smell that seeped into every piece of fabric and carpet, staining everything. I think its one of the reasons brown and grey shades were so popular.
Most restaurants would have smoking sections right next to the none smoking sections, as if the smoke knew the rules.
Most restaurants would have smoking sections right next to the none smoking sections, as if the smoke knew the rules.
“Smoking or non-smoking”
‘Non-smoking please’
* sits you right next to the smoking section *
‘You could just tell me to go fuck myself.’
My favorite was when you answered non-smoking and they just took away the ashtray.
Every Sunday morning growing up lol
This is why I get nauseous when I am around smokers.
I remember living in a big city when the law was passed. The city hall hired cleaners to remove the smell. I can’t confirm the whole building as it’s absolutely massive but I do remember seeing the smallest areas being scrubbed. Out of every building in the area it turned out the absolute best. 1 mcdonalds ended up remodeling the whole place but the smell was still a little faint.
Lies. Some of it smelled like leaded car exhaust.
And most people were nose blind to the smell.
I was in the 1990s, but I smoked by then. I could definitely notice in the 1980s if we sat too close to the smoking section. If there was a smoking section.
