You know how the right tried to twist the truth? They told, on camera, that Trump wants to continue SNAP but legally can’t.
I really want to see a reporter ask them how that fits with reality now.
That requires a reporter with balls to exist andbe allowed within 100y of a Republican with a mic.
He’ll just call the reporter nasty, throw some uncreative insults, remove the newspaper from the allowed list and ignore the question
Depose the mad traitor king, or the starving mob will find a way.
Hang him by his feet from the white house balcony.
I do appreciate the Mussolini ending, but…
What I have been saying since Jan 6th:
Bury him alive at the feet of Lincoln, maybe a 20 foot deep shaft, just throw him in, then the concrete.
All that would indicate anything was amiss, would be an engraved gold plate on the floor, on top of the shaft, reading SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS.
… A more patriotic spin on the steretypical real estate developer method of assasination.
Leave him encased in his own disgrace, literally under Lincoln’s feet, the only suitable place for a racist insurrectionist mob boss.
And also, the plate is gold… meant to be stepped on, and the engraving wear away with time.
Sounds good, only I think lead with gold leaf would be more fitting.
I’d say we should eat him, but he looks gamey as fuck.
There’s another reality where the hungry masses swarm what’s left of the White House like macrophages and destroy the rot inside, demonstrating with great visibility the it can be done, triggering a cascade of fascism FAFO worldwide.
Sadly, we seem to be in the cancer timeline where they take all the resources and starve us all to death instead.
I’m starting to think he illegally misappropriated those funds and now literally can’t use them for their intended purpose cuz he’s broke.
So, it’s either healthcare subsidies or food? You can’t have both? Even though we had both before Republicans took it all away, so they could give tax breaks to Trump’s rich donors?
Fuck these assholes.
It’s also a bit of PR nightmare for the GOP. Trump defying the court order shifts the blame back onto them.
In a less polarized and post truth world you’d probably be right. I fear however that the solid 36-37% maga base will never find an issue that can’t be spun or rationalized. In the magasphere this situation seems to be framed as the GOP stepping up to fight against free health care for illegal immigrants which seems divorced from reality.
It’s a cult
Reality genuinely doesn’t play any part in things with them
In a less polarized and post truth world you’d probably be right. I fear however that the solid 36-37% maga base will never find an issue that can’t be spun or rationalized.
It’s not an accident…
When Nixon resigned, Roger Ailes wrote a memo that accidentally ended up in the icon presidential library:
The memo – called, simply enough, “A Plan For Putting the GOP on TV News” – is included in a 318-page cache of documents detailing [Roger] Ailes’ work for both the Nixon and George H.W. Bush administrations that we obtained from the Nixon and Bush presidential libraries. Through his firms REA Productions and Ailes Communications, Inc., Ailes served as paid consultant to both presidents in the 1970s and 1990s, offering detailed and shrewd advice ranging from what ties to wear to how to keep the pressure up on Saddam Hussein in the run-up to the first Gulf War.
The memo explains why television was the way to go:
Today television news is watched more often than people read newspapers, than people listen to the radio, than people read or gather any other form of communication. The reason: People are lazy. With television you just sit—watch—listen. The thinking is done for you.
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2011/memo-from-1970-a-plan-for-putting-the-gop-on-tv-news/
They knew that if they owned the media, they could control what people thought, and no republican president would ever have to resign due to public outcry again.
Luckily, he was held back by federal regulations, until a good ole capitalist from Arkansas got elected and decided anyone should be able to own media in America:
The stated intention of the law was to “let anyone enter any communications business – to let any communications business compete in any market against any other.”[5] In practice, it gave way to one of the largest consolidations of the telecommunications sector in history - as such, it is often described as an attempt to deregulate the American broadcasting and telecommunications markets due to technological convergence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
After that it was gloves off and the billionaires gobbled up every aspect of the “news” industry and maintain almost exclusive control over what a majority of Americans hear.
TBF, the problem with media was well underway before Clinton came along. The Fairness Doctrine being done away with under Ronnie Raygun opened the floodgates.
Trump is posting on social media that Biden’s administration was just giving SNAP benefits away. His idiot supporters are gonna believe it.
I truly think that a good amount of these people could be personally executed by Trump shooting them in the chest, and while Trump says “I know what you are and I hate you” they would lay there dying and say “Oh it’s okay, I know you didn’t mean that. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. I still support what you’re doing overall.” or possibly even “I guess I do deserve to die if you say so”.
Now I will say the majority of even the maga team is not this nuts. But some definitely are. Many humans have unfortunately had the privilege to never interact with the kind of person who will truly never change their mind. I’ve known one or two, and it’s a really mind-expanding experience, almost like you’re meeting an extraterrestrial. It’s hard for people who haven’t seen them to believe 👽 lol
Yeah, but most of the hardcore maga base is going to die within 10 years, but waaaayyyy sooner if Trump keeps cutting snap and Medicaid. Then you’ll be left with the few capable white supremacist MAGAts, and a lot of out of shape brainwashed dipshits who will either scatter into the shadows or fall in line and shut the fuck up real quick
it was always on them, but more never hurts.
I think by saying he’ll defy a court order, he’s letting the supreme court know they have to okay whatever bullshit he comes up with. Otherwise, it will become obvious that they can’t do jack shit.
Was the order even appealed or did he just tell them to pound sand?
No idea. They always take their time, delay, and appeal so I just assume that’ll be the eventual resolution.
If the government can’t afford to feed and heal the people, they shouldn’t be building a ballroom. I was taught in school to pay for your needs before your wants.
But the ballroom is all being paid for by the people who are hoping Trump will do them favors. So, that makes it none of our business.
In the end it’s going to be neither. Because once you give way on one front, it is proven that you’ll negotiate.
This is literally how we got here. Dems capitulated over and over during Obama’s presidency to keep programs like SNAP going, and Republicans have run the same strategy ever since. Stonewall everything as long as you can, and blame it on the other side the entire time. And people eat it up every single time.
I feel like dems should add to their list of demands- if the Rs dont agree to reverse course on Healthcare now, dems will not agree to reopen until all missed snap benefits are paid back retroactively- if it goes another week, they will not vote until ice is fully refunded, etc
Use open secrets dort org. You can find the shitbags in your area that gave 5k, 10k, 20k, 50k+ directly to the trump campaign. Not a general Republican PAC, but directly to HIS campaign. You can then cross reference those names with county property records. Then you can engage in civil political discourse with those people
Be thankful you get a choice.
We didn’t get a choice about bailing out Argentina. Or soybean sales to China.
Can we please for the love of God have a judge actually enforce their order for once? He has shown over and over that he’s just going to do what he wants. The rest of us would have to sleep on a jail bench for a few days then still be forced to comply.
Trump doesn’t personally fill the SNAP accounts, and Trump doesn’t personally manage the money.
Start charging the employees with violating court orders.
That’s the problem with the separation of powers… The executive branch is supposed to be the one that enforces the laws… The judicial branch has very little power to actually enforce their rulings. And Trump is the head of the executive branch.
I’m not sure on the legal veracity but I read somewhere after one of his MANY ignored court orders that the Marshals might have the ability to enforce it somehow
They might. We never seem to know for sure how our own laws work, but it is a distinct possibility.
That’s what happens when the Supreme Court decides that when the president does it, it’s not illegal. He does what he wants because the Republican justices decided that The President is above the law. There literally isn’t any legal way for a judge to enforce their orders over Trump.
“Hey, guys that work for Trump, punish Trump!”
You can see why it doesn’t work so well.
Judges don’t work for Trump at least legally speaking.
No, the judges are asking the Executive branch (which Trump is the head of) to do the enforcing. The judges don’t have an enforcement arm.
Let that Federal Judge know that if he want to deputize citizens to carry out his orders, I will gladly help.
But then when reporters questioned Levitt, she barked back that he IS NOT withholding them and they are being sent out as needed.
Why is it that the president makes some unhinged, mental social media post, then the white house has to translate that for the media? This is absurd and they all need to be removed from office for incompetence, then charged for all the crimes they have committed.
This is absurd and they all need to be removed from office for incompetence, then charged for all the crimes they have committed.
Why do yall keep saying things like this. It feels like there are dozens of people trapped in the thinking that somewhere some other grown ups will be the grown ups for them.
These are the people who have been picked and who have the power.
They won’t be arresting themselves, and they wont allow fair and free elections if no one forces the issue.
Can’t wait to hear your plan
Gotta show up to the antifa meetings to hear those
Yeah because he’ll totally spend time in prison if they’re released.
Obviously Trump and his team thinks so.
this is rediculous. you guys in congress know that the country cannot remain as a stable and nice place if he is not impeached. you can’t just let a president break the law constantly. impeach. impeach. impeach.
What congress? The Republicans won’t even let the house meet anymore
Looking at last night’s election results, that really worked out great for him. Lol.
We’re approaching a huge turning point in US (and world) history. Either republicans are going to mostly lose for a long time (at least 6 years if I were to guess), maybe until they demonstrate they’ve changed, OR they are going to succeed at rigging or cancelling elections so they don’t have to give up power. I don’t think we can expect much in between those two extremes. Makes my stomach queasy as hell to think about.
Which is why everyone should be prepared for them to inflict physical violence upon us, because it’s coming either way.
People keep saying stuff like this, but there’s basically nothing that will turn me into a violent person outside of defending myself in the moment. I don’t own weapons and I don’t want to own them. I’d actually probably rather die than fight through that kind of a world.
I’m prepared for insults and scolding but it’s true for me and many people. No amount of people saying “buy guns” is going to change me. And I suspect most people are like this.
I’m right there with you, but there are many ways to prepare without resorting to participating. I think the mental preparation is the key, because it’s tough to stay home on election day when doing so is akin to putting the barrel against your own head.
I see. Sorry for making a false assumption about what you meant.
TBF, this particular person didn’t say buy guy, they said be ready for them to inflict physical violence, and honestly, it’s reasonably likely. Maybe not on you, or me, but surely for many and it’ll be quite visible.
That’s fair.
I am supremely doubtful with all the infighting on the left with the literal child mentality “but they’re both bad!!!1!” bothsiders, and the “nothing ever happens” crowd who thinks things will magically just go back to normal that it will be the good outcome.
I mean we’ve seen a number of positives recently like
- Nancy Pelosi
dyingretiring (might as well be the same things for old crotcheties like herself) - Dick Cheney dying (May god rest his soul… in hell… for all eternity)
- Prop 50 passing
- Mamdani winning with a higher percentage of votes than everyone else combined
But that’s just not enough.
They are in charge of all the institutions required for a fair or even approximately close to “”“fair”“” by old standards election and there are literally no means for recourse that aren’t just straight up violence, which despite the edgy people online’s messages, no one actually has the stomach for and is therefore just words used to procrastinate.
- Nancy Pelosi
I don’t think it matters. Democrats aren’t gonna seize power and be like “Oh, my God! Would you look at all these mechanisms to abuse power! Better get rid of them!”
I don’t understand your point. Democrats also historically haven’t been the party of outright evil and fascism.
That there will be no turning point. Once the mechanisms for fascism have been established, unless an actual revolution happens, the next government will always abuse them.
So by this logic, if Democrats win back control of our government, they will also deploy the military to maintain a police state, arrest and prosecute political enemies, and deport immigrants by the thousands? I can see your point to some degree but I don’t really buy any of the things I listed would be the case.
No but they do like the idea of keeping their options open. There’s a reason they haven’t codified so many basic protections and relied on historical precedence and decorum instead.
And even with Trump they haven’t shown a willingness to admit their mistake and learn their lessons in this regard. They’ll write Trump off as a fluke and keep making all the same mistakes, including the repetition of many far-right talking points.
Holy lack of reading comprehension and historical education.
Alright cool. Lovely interaction
The Great Switch: How Republicans and Democrats Flipped Ideologies https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties
I’m aware. Wasn’t really referring to that far in the past.
If it’s flipped once it can flip again. The Dems may not curtently be fascist, but they certainly are authoritarian.
I agree and am also quite queasy.
Rigging and cancelling. There has been no better opportunity.
After midterms. These dems better put on their big girl panties and start impeaching and imprisoning this entire administration and the Supreme Court immediately. No mercy project 2029!
They absolutely need to, but I’d bet real money they wont.
I can already hear them saying “we as a nation need to heal and move on from the darkness behind us” 🙄
Rinse and repeat.
Unfortunately, the rinse crew has been dissolved as a cost cutting measure.
Cancer is “healed” by aggressively snuffing it out.
I hope there are enormous protests and campaigns to pressure them into it, if they don’t (which yeah, they probably wouldn’t, left to their natural inclinations).
Don’t worry. I’m sure we’ll get Merrick Garland as AG again.
He will be in jail. Maybe we don’t pardon him so the new guy does his job properly this time
Another impeachable offense.
I think he wants to pave a road made of impeachable offenses.
You’re kidding yourself if you think he’d build a public utility
Oh it would be a private road. A nice alley lined with trophies of self-aggrandisement and narcissism, closed off to the public who only get to look on through a fence as he gets driven up and down his rue de merde (which someone told him is related to merit, so he ate it right up, because fact checking is for losers) in a pimped out golf cart.
The road to hell is paved with impeachable offenses?
I thought it was kiddie rape
I would hope that’s an impeachable offense Oo.
Trump will negotiate with Hamas, Putin and North Korea but NOT with Democrats.
And we can add the Taliban to the list, scheduled to negotiate at Camp David no less.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-calls-off-secret-meeting-with-taliban-afghan-leaders
Honestly, Trump and Republicans in general aren’t that different from what one might imagine an American version of the Taliban to be like.
If nobody enforces court rulings they’re just an ethics council.
Seems like lately its the ethically wrong council
“sound the alarm”, horseshit. Just file the articles of impeachment and make the senators vote openly that they believe the executive branch ignoring a court order is okay. Senators should have to openly say it’s okay to not remove someone for not following the rules /“laws” of the republic. Then as Trump keeps fucking everything up the Senators will have to realize either A. They are willing to surrender their job/career/ country to back a tryant,or B. They need to jump ship.
If its fine to not listen to the courts, then there is no reason for congress to exist. Their job is to write legislation that the courts ensure breakers of that legislation are punished.
They should have done so on many other occasions, but their failures are only adding up.
File the articles of impeachment over every single illegal action he is undertaking. Make it so congress is constantly dealing with impeachment hearing every second of every day till he is dead and buried.
While doing that make sure that you call for a constitutional convention, not an amendment or a series if amendments. A full on new constitution is needed to clear the shit out.
While the House of Representatives remains out have all the democratic representatives meet and broadcast it publicly. Do that every single day, talk policy and reforms and ask republican representatives to join the meeting. Make it painfully obvious that the democrats want to have a functioning government and not be held out like this endlessly.
Anyways tangent over.
You do not want a constitutional convention in this political climate. Amending the constitution requires 3/4 of state legislatures to ratify the amendment. Considering a solid majority of states have Republican controlled legislatures, the only things we’re likely to get from a convention are amendments banning DEI initiatives and trans people in sports, or something even worse.
I say they amend the constitution to make it 1/4 vote congress impeach, 1/3 vote removes. VP is not picked by President, it is the second most votes like when the country started. Then you put oversight committees on every executive organization and they answer directly to congress. Get rid of “executive powers” that come from declaring emergencies and etc. So impeaching president puts the VP (most likely their running opponent). Then the 3rd votes goes to VP and an emergency vote is taken place, to put a new Senate backup.
Or I’ve said before: dissolve the executive branch, and place all of the organizations under the legislature, and make a 3rd party review committee that evaluates if legislation, and judicial is being created to overpower the judicial branch or corrupt. And all organizations under the executive answer directly to congress.
Or, dissolve the Senate and the Executive… Place everything under Congress, expand the supreme Court to 50 judges one from each state. (Still would need some oversight)
But the idea is to make it so population of individuals is easily defeated, and we don’t have giant stupid news buyouts every 4 years to make 1 position something it was never meant to me. If you don’t want a king, kill the position
That would work if it weren’t for the gullibility of republican voters. GOP is clearly the ones at fault for the current shut down, yet they’ve convinced half of their supporters to blame democrats based on literally nothing.
So if the senate refuses to ratify any impeachment than all the GOP has to do is yell “TDS” and all their criminally stupid supporters would believe it no questions asked.
Not really different from our current reality tho
The events of January 6th suggest Trump would be willing to mass execute congress if he didn’t need them anymore
IIRC, Articles of Impeachment against the President are filed in the House, not the Senate.
The articles of impeachment are the house, the removal is the Senate. Requires 2/3. It’s why Trump was not removed during his 1st term. Impeached twice, and the Senate never voted to remove, the second time saying it was so close to the end it doesn’t matter if we vote. (It did matter, he most likely wouldn’t be president now if they had)
