• Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    They each cost $80. Yeah you wish they were so cheap…

    If PS goes all digital and Xbox follows with their closed ecosystem, $100 is the minimum they will charge.

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    2 months ago

    Don’t forget fucking Secure Boot! Locked me out of one of my favorite games, Battlefield 1, all in the name of “anti-cheat”!

    Fuck that noise

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      2 months ago

      It’s downstream of a bunch of retail game shops - GameStop, Newegg, Toys’R’Us, RadioShack - all going tits up over the last ten years. Giving up on physical media isn’t some Machiavellian business play. It’s a response to their historical vendors dying out.

      Unless Sony starts opening up their own mall kiosks, they won’t have anywhere to sell physical copies outside Amazon or Walmart. And there’s a reason you don’t want these two to be your primary retail pipeline.

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    2 months ago

    Don’t forget that you paid a %50 deposit to reserve/pre-register your “copy” of a digital game

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      2 months ago

      Pre-orders used to be to make sure you have a copy available to purchase on release day. Now there’s no point in that since there’s effectively an infinite stock since it’s a digital product. Now it’s just to get a sub-par DLC outfit that doesn’t look good with anything.

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        2 months ago

        Everyone is old enough to schedule one if you make up a convincing enough reason. I just had my 3rd one this year!

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          I tried! Turns out I get to wait until I’m 45. Having a great-aunt and great-grandma with colon cancer isn’t enough. The great aunt died in her 30s of colon cancer, iirc.

            • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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              Luckily the ones that tend to go are the large electrolytic capacitors (the cylindrical ones that typically stand perpendicular to and proud of the board) which are also the easiest to desolder. They also have their ratings printed right on the side to make it nice and easy to source replacements. Just note the polarity denoted by the stripe on the side before you take the old one off, because your board may or may not be marked underneath with which way around it goes!

              I cut my teeth doing it on Pentium 2 and Pentium 3 motherboards when I was a kid, using a $10 Radio Shack single temperature soldering iron and quite possibly the world’s most awful technique, but I got away with it nearly 100% of the time.

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          2 months ago

          (not the person you asked) tbh, we have an awesome local video game store that does repairs. I’d ask them. They replaced the laser on my partner’s PS2 when it stopped reading discs.

          Or, check ifixit.com and see if there’s a walkthrough for your device.

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        2 months ago

        5 bucks per joystick calibration. 8 for both.

        The left comes misaligned out of the box, the right drifts after two weeks.

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      2 months ago

      No one is forcing you to…

      You act like other manufacturers won’t follow suit in an attempt to squeeze more money out of consumers in the hunt for ever increasing profits.

      • YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        If you want physical disks just pirate and make them yourself. You’ll save lots of money and won’t have to support these shitty companies making such a decision.

        All I’m trying to say is you have options and don’t have to let them make you believe you dont. I don’t like them doing this either but I don’t get a say just like you.

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          Thats not really possible at this point with the triple A games. Not unless you copy them to physical dedicated SSDs. The games are so unoptimised and bloated these days, you are forced to believe that a digital download is the solution - unless you use a bunch of bluray disks, but thats just annoying.

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        Of course it will happen, but still no one is forcing you. It’s up to you to decide how much you can tolerate. At one point you have to decide that it’s enough and you wont buy anymore and if it means you can’t participate in that hobby then yes you wont participate in it and find a new hobby.

        The meme is accurate, but it still is a luxury product and quitting it is always an option.

        I’ve quit multiple things just because the price rose over some predetermined limit.

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      2 months ago

      Yeah, the PS5 is my last console. I don’t get why you’re getting downvoted.

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      2 months ago

      No, budget PCs and indies - NOT piracy.

      If you base your gaming life around piracy, no one is paying for the industry. No golden parachutes for Take Two execs, but also no return on indie development - every game would be by a first time studio mortgaging their house and closing immediately after.

      Do not condition people around never paying for media. You get what you pay for. And if you’re not paying, you doom yourself to pages of games full of ad-driven AI slop.

      • tio_bira@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        If your indie game is too expensive, i will pirate it too, if it worth it i will bought, if not i won’t, very simple.

        Damn, i end up buying RDR2 as i finished him pirated and fell than the game deserve it.

        Some indie games, where i live are still very expensive and sometimes rhe devs already have a shitton of money like Team Cherry.

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          2 months ago

          How about if a game is too expensive, you just don’t play it?

          That rule forms some interesting results; sometimes, people realize they really DO want to play that game, and can stomach the high price more than they can missing out. People are not always honest with themselves about their judgment of a price. They always want it for less if possible, but may confess that a higher price is better than no product.

          If you’ve ever seen the “walk away -> Wait!” style of price negotiation, that’s this - it can happen with both consumers and publishers. Also called driving a hard bargain, or haggling. Factorio dev famously called people out on their habitual approaches to sales, and I think it’s hard to say he didn’t earn his success.

          Plus, on devs having lots of money: They’re often putting that money to future development. Some studios I love like Supergiant and Game Bakers had some semi-flops as they tried new ideas. If they didn’t build savings from success stories, they’d have to close down after that. Besides, they deserve some results for their risk taking. And don’t you dare say indie development doesn’t involve risk.

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            2 months ago

            If a too expensive game is available for free as pirated media, why wait ? You can at least try before buy or decide if worth it your time

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              1. Lots of indies DO have demos. That’s what Steam Next Fest is. Many of them are generous with playtime.
              2. Steam has a refund policy. In the event you find you made a mistake with a purchase, you can tell support it wasn’t fun.
              3. People are streaming a lot of games, even indies now. Those can give you a closer idea of even the midgame.

              Lastly, I’m not going to use the S word that rhymes with Peel, because a dozen pirates will dogpile on how it’s not technically the correct terminology, but you’re still breaking a societal expectation - that people interested in another person’s work will pay for access to that work. Some museums will provide a donation box, but others have you pay for entry - Because artists gotta eat, and that’s the rule. No one cares you’re not lifting the paintings out of the hall. You have interest and curiosity, so pay some dues to the people who piqued that.

              • tio_bira@lemmy.world
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                Jesus, i not stealing candy from babies, do you remember Dave the diver, the game who almost won the indie GOTY prize beside been backed by a milionare fund corporation, ain’t saying i gonna pirated a “artistic” five dollars game made by one guy while living in some basement, althrought nothing would stop me.

                I more than glad to pay for games i appreciated, like “El Paso, elsewhere”, Mina The Hollower, Pigface, Dandara, Huntdown, etc, but you have to understand, i live in a place where some of those more popular “indie” games cost me as much as double AA or some AAA games on sale, they still very expense for a lot of people.

                That’s the exactly dumbass discussion who the Silksong caused on the piracy community, it was farly expensive for a lot of people and team cherry have swimming in money from the first game and the people who bought Silksong on launch, but the fanboys are trying to convince people than would be wrong to pirate a game who already have paid itself on launch (it broked the Valve server ffs).

                People have this illusion than pirates are there to fight big corpo or some moral bullshit, people are in piracy to get free stuff, some people would like to, sometimes, take his money to help the devs, because a lot of people using pirate products are fucking broke or live in places where such expenses would make no sense due the prices of some games

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                  just thought I should chime in here, as another first world country gamer. Go ahead and pirate the fuck outta games, they were made to be played. Anyone genuinely mad about pirating is someone who deluded themselves into believing they’re currently a down-on-their-luck future billionaire.

                  Games are better when more people enjoy them, and the only way to do that is by lowering the barrier to entry. It’s the same with manga, anime and most of the other “booms” that have occurred since the start of the 2000’s. They were all started by piracy, or in the case of AI, legitimatized theft. Only real difference is who’s doing the stealing, the ‘poors’ or the currently billion dollar companies.

                  You are morally obligated to pirate whatever the fuck you want until you can purchase it, if you want, or until the product comes to you (i.e., it’s priced reasonably for your region, and the service/product brought to you is of acceptable quality).

  • grue@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Or, you could take control of your life back from the corpos by any means necessary.

    • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      For how much longer though? Older consoles and games are no longer being made and each year fewer and fewer will be available.

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          I doubt most console gamers have enough of the know-how nor the desire to figure out how to emulate.

          And before you say it’s easy: yes, for many that is often the case. But for an even greater amount of people all they want to do is install the game on their platform of choice and play. Too many hoops to jump through and the casual/technologically unmotivated audience loses motivation. And the minimum amount of hoops before that ends up being the case is smaller than you and I would probably hope for.

          • EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app
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            You’re not wrong but that can be rectified. Back in the day, like half the population knew how to use Napster and then KaZaa and then Limewire and among those who didn’t, enough people did that they just asked a friend

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            Plus things like emulating seem to be age bound. My niece could maybe figure it out. My nephew can barely use a computer. He can install anything. And will, no matter what it is or from where. He will also then never uninstall it cause he doesn’t know how. Tech literacy seems to be dying. Not just email and a browser. But actually doing nerdy things and knowing how to do things like emulate or rotate a pdf.

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    2 months ago

    Can’t wait for the servers to crash cuz everyone tries downloading their copy of the game at the same time lol

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        Didn’t Silksong crash those servers less than a year ago from everyone downloading it? You think GTA 6 will be LESS popular?

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          If people buy GTA 6 without a disk, particularly after Sony just deleted people’s purchased movies without a refund, then they deserve whatever fate awaits them.

  • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip
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    As a PC gamer, I just cannot understand the level of overreacting happening about discs no longer being provided.

    Oh no! Not the optical media!

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      Consoles have exclusive digital marketplaces for their games. At least physical games provided a veil of competition. I don’t particularly like that PC games are effectively digital only now but I can still choose where I buy my game I don’t really own.

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      The root issue for me is Sony has deleted content you bought. That’s a big fuck you.

      Valve has not. They unlist, but you can always get it.

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        While Valve is objectively better and more insulated from anti-consumer policies as a privately held company with good ownership…

        I still have reservations about having my eggs in one basket with Valve, though I have a substantial Steam library. Someday Gabe will retire and/or the competition will stop shooting itself in the foot. As a result, the current customer friendly behavior may shift and then all bets are off.

        If that were to come to pass, I think we’d see a huge jump in 🏴‍☠️ 🦜

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      Because when your ToS states you’re purchasing a license to play the game instead of the actual game itself, physical media becomes important.

      What can you do if your favorite game is removed from your account? You have the option to pirate it. But console owners don’t without jailbreaking. Which gets harder and harder each generation.

      Furthermore, ToS can be changed at any time, and the fines Sony will pay for a ToS violation doesn’t give you your game back. So a physical disk is a way to avoid random ToS changes.

      The reason why you don’t (usually) see content completely removed from PC is because they know you can and will just pirate it if they take it away from you.

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    It’s 2060

    All consoles are digital-only, legally-required to verify your identity, and locked-down

    But Linux still exists! In adapting, it’s now hyper-optimized for thin-client corporate workstation terminals, the only computers still made. Distributions are shared via illegal mesh networks or person-to-person on physical media

    Players can simulate operating a “grocery store”, something that used to exist back before the States collapsed

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      legally-required to verify your identity

      UK has pushing that stuff for over a year.

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      As there is no way for the NSA/CIA/FBI/PTA to monitor what’s on a flash drive in your pocket, such physical media will be made illegal. Possession of physical computer storage media that is not permanently connected to the internet will be grounds for arrest and reeducation.

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        such physical media will be made illegal

        not quite the same, but in Hungary you had* to pay an extra tax on writeable CDs because it was assumed that you’re buying them for piracy 🫠 iirc the tax went to support the music and film industry

        (* maybe still have to, but I haven’t lived there in more than a decade)

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          US kind of had that in the '90s. CDRs designated as music disc’s cost extra because we were all criminal scum pirating non-stop. However, if it was a data disc, there was no surcharge.

          There was no difference between the two except the packaging.

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    It’s ok, you can only run it for ten minutes anyway before your power is cut for datacentre usage

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    You have 4 in your library, but only 1 is installed; it’s Call of Duty. Since there’s no need for physical media anymore, the footprint of games has ballooned to the point where if you want to install CoD, it’s going to cost you 2TB of storage. They threw in 8k textures just for the 0.0001% of players that actually have an 8k TV, and there are a lot of textures since the Big Chungus update which introduced 255 different coloured Chungus textures for every weapon and weapon attachment combination in the game.

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      They also animated each one in a strange uncompressed video format instead of using effects over them. They are not optional, even though 95% are from optional dlcs you don’t own.

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        They also drop the FPS to half of what it was before, which the upcoming PS6 Pro is said to handle better (it’ll not actually handle it much better). With the upcoming Pro console they have removed the 2tb version of the PS6, and it has no expandable storage so you can’t even play any games on the PS6 if you buy it from this point forwards.