• grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
    661·
    7 days ago

    Joke’s on you: GNU/Linux isn’t Unix to begin with (that’s literally what GNU means: “GNU’s Not Unix”)!

    Therefore, MacOS is “the best Unix” only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes (“Unices?” “Unixen?”) – hardly an impressive feat.

    Trollface

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
      21·
      7 days ago

      BSDs aren’t even Unix AFAIK because they didn’t bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        9·
        6 days ago

        Although for both Linux and (especially) BSD, isn’t there a “Unix of Theseus” issue here, if you understand my meaning?

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          6 days ago

          Maybe for BSD? They have a lot of the original code though, and BSD moves a lot slower than Linux. Modern BSDs have a lot more in common with original UNIX than macOS does, but macOS paid for the certification and the BSDs didn’t.

          Linux never was UNIX though. It does loosely follow the UNIX philosophy though.

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
      32·
      6 days ago

      This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I’m completely safe.

        • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee
          18·
          6 days ago

          This guy doesn’t know how to TempleOS lol.

          Oh, I see, you’re all worried about a “networking stack.” How quaint. Let me educate you: God is the ultimate protocol. Who needs your silly HTTP requests and DNS lookups when I can just send a direct message to the big guy upstairs? No IP address needed—He’s omnipresent. My connection is flawless, no need for Wi-Fi signals when I have divine 5G directly from Heaven’s router.

          You think TempleOS is lacking? Nah, son, it’s running the only secure, unbreakable network. No firewalls, no encryption—because when you’re transmitting truth straight from the source, who needs all that earthly nonsense? My packets are blessed, my data’s sanctified, and I don’t even need a modem to know the Lord’s will.

          So, yeah, keep your networking stack. I’ll stick with the holy bandwidth. It’s been running perfectly since the dawn of time. My packets are blessed, son!

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      7·
      6 days ago

      The main reason why MacOS has less viruses is that it’s even more than that. Want to run programs not from the app store? Hope you like a convoluted set of settings you have to go through to install that in the first place.

      The second main reason is the constant obsolescence of API.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        6 days ago

        convoluted set of settings

        1. Attempt to open the app
        2. Go to Privacy & Security Settings and give it permission
        3. Open the app

        Note that this is only with unsigned apps. You can download other apps and run them just fine as long as they’re signed.

        Much confuse. Such convolute. Wow.

        • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
          3·
          6 days ago
          1. Convoluted enough to scare the average people off from installing apps outside from the app store.
          2. In theory, code signing is a positive thing, and probably should be part of Linux too. In practice, it becomes an expensive paywall, that often pushes developers to make web applications instead (browsers don’t have to check for code signage), both on Mac and Windows.
  • mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org
    715·
    7 days ago

    Obscurity is not security. Obscurity is the fake sensation of privacy, you are on the hands of the creator.

  • bss03@infosec.pub
    25·
    6 days ago

    I’m late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.

    Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.

    Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.

      • Kichae@lemmy.caEnglish
        6·
        6 days ago

        Well, you see, I deserve free software for my hobbies, or even my business. You deserve to suck shit and die in a gutter. /s

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
        4·
        6 days ago

        I think it’s because somebody has to produce that media, and the one producing it gets to choose the license for it, and that license can make it free or non-free.

        Now, for open source software, somehow, a lot of people came together and built software that was free. While for movies, shows, books, whatever, the same thing didn’t happen, or at least not to the same extent.

        I’m all for FOSS gaming btw.

  • HStone32@lemmy.world
    15·
    6 days ago

    Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn’t freedom if Apples winning any awards.

    • highball@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      4 days ago

      It’s definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000’s.

  • Routhinator@startrek.websiteEnglish
    25·
    7 days ago

    I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not… well… if you don’t see it maybe I’m just net-warped.

  • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
    182·
    7 days ago

    But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)

    I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.

    I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.

    • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub
      8·
      7 days ago

      I did the same, in the late 90s, and that computer got h4xx3d in two weeks through a vulnerability in Apache.

      That was a really good learning experience.

      • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
        7·
        7 days ago

        I ran Apache on a box at work, but it was configured by our insanely intelligent sysadmin. Nothing got past her. Never met a sysadmin as brilliant as her. I don’t know how they managed to hire and retain her, but she was given a lot of freedom to run things how she liked - she even had a custom firewall between us and head office!

        I also had an insanely cheery yellow iMac G3 at the same time - if it made it through the first ten minutes without crashing it would make it through the day. Somehow its stability and resilience improved over time. Not so my windows PC. If you left that on too long, memleak.dll and slowdown.dll would take over and everything would get shakier and shakier. I never quite got used to only having one button though on the mac.

  • Eiri@lemmy.ca
    13·
    7 days ago

    Is there some twisted definition by which you can argue Windows is UNIX? Just to intensify the violence.