I came here to write “Elise Stefanik is a moron”, but then I noticed Chen already called her an idiot. What an embarrassment to NY-21 congressional district (thankfully not mine). I love going up to the Adirondacks, but man is it MAGA country now.
Last summer, I noticed the print on demand t-shirt shop in Old Forge that has been there since at least the 80s is now run by magats. They had a row of anti-LGBTQ shirts and the usual Joe Biden hatred crap on display and I just walked out. I’m so tired of people making everything political and wearing it on their sleeves, sometimes literally.
First in Oligarch pillaging that boosts stock market. Only metric that matters for US success. First in genocide support, comming closer to home that you expect!
I may not like the CCP, but you have to give credit to where it is due. The government is run by pragmatic technocrats with long term vision. These are the characteristics that America has lost long ago. It is so ironic and funny that it is China who is the promoter now of international free trade.
FWIW, I HATE the CCP. Though they do keep China from being all it could be which could be bad for other countries.
Holy shit no.
The CCP is mostly controlled by Xi Jinping, and he’s happy to purge anyone who gets in his way, since 2012 and continuing today. He’s also forcing compliance at every level — from disappearing Jack Ma for the mildest of CCP criticism to enforcing a blackout of tianamen square in their ai models. He is much closer to Putin than Trump.
This same control-freak policy applies to their trade. Want to do business in china? Be prepared to set up a 50/50 joint stock company. Want to move money out of the country? Good luck, 50k/year max. This is why so many Chinese buy foreign property, they are trying to move assets outside the reach of the CCP. It’s also why China turns a blind eye to the fent trade — it weakens the US and provides a valuable source of hard (ie cash) currency for China.
Don’t get it twisted, the CCP is run by authoritarians with little tolerance for dissent, not wise technocrats building a better China.
Chinese belt and road initivate can nearly be called free trade.
Yes, CCP is authoritarian, but the party has long term vision for the country. Because they don’t want to revert back to the so-called century of humiliation when China became technologically behind and had been carrion feeds for outside powers. The country had been isolationist which made Imperial China weak, but the CCP decided to open up and use international free trade to assert their own influence, instead of being controlled by it like before. Much of CCP’s decision making is influenced by historical trauma, as well as from Confucian idea of mandate of heaven-- that the ruling government is only legitimate so long as they can deliver for the people.
So even though Xi cracks down on dissent, he is open to ideas when it comes to technological advancements and pushes his subordinates to keep up. And as we can see, Deep Seek had beaten Western AI development at a fraction of the cost, and China is leading in manufacturing electric vehicles and battery and other renewable technologies. Millions of Chinese had been lifted out of poverty, and the older generations still remember the hardship and the war so many Chinese feel grateful. Xi wants the CCP to prove to the population that only they can deliver progress. But as you pointed out, there is a cost to all of this.
The CCP long term vision isn’t for China and Chinese citizens, it is entirely for the CCP.
Just being pedantic regarding the AI models; they’re only censored on the publicly hosted versions. Like any other model if you run it locally you’re only restricted by the model’s training
Nope, running locally still has censorship issues, just not as much
Your article literally proves my point
Just because you will be purged for making Winnie the Pooh references, doesn’t mean you are not allowed to make suggestions to improve China, or that Xi is Idi Amin taking all wealth of the country for himself. There exists an intellectual party that is capable of removing him if they thought he was acting inappropriately. Sure, capital controls is a restriction on the rich in China, but that doesn’t make it a shithole country pillaged by oligarchs, like some.
Dont forget them avoiding war for however many decades, while america fabricates them for profit.
I guess taking over Tibet and the ongoing Uyghur genocide just don’t matter.
Well I’ll just have to take your word for it won’t I?
The truth is that the U.S. contributes the most to foreign aid funds, and still gets zero to little political good will.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_development_aid_sovereign_state_donors
A better statistic with which to make comparisons between nations is the % of GDP or budget of said nations devoted to aid. The US is first in the actual amount given, but our budgetary % is pretty low compared to other nations. Not to mention the aid figures given include military aid and similar that ends up coming back to US companies.
Any reason you can think of why that might be the case?
Ok guessing 50-70 million psycho racist MAGA rednecks might have a factor in that
Because we have far too many hate blinded citizens who are ready and willing to drop to their knees and open wide for the bukkake of anti-America propaganda?
You guys are celebrating the “comeback” from a person who works for the Chinese government and is LITERALLY labeled as “China state-affiliated media”…
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while. Just because CCP-governed/owned media says something, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Especially since propaganda doesn’t work very well if it’s ALL lies. Mixing in some truth makes propaganda work much better.
Yes, but let’s stop pretending that all other countries are angelic heavens with leaders who have nothing but the best intentions for all people, everywhere. Every country has its issues, and it’s really easy to blame them on “imperialists”.
I fail to see how one would get the idea that someone is saying other countries are “angelic heavens with leaders who have nothing but the best intentions for all people” from this discussion.
Why create the “yeah but” space?. If someone points out that there is a problem with gun violence in America the response should be “yeah, that’s not good, we should try and figure out some sort of solution” not “yeah but we donate the most in foreign aid”.
I’m sincerely not taking the piss. I feel like creating that sort of space is dangerous not only because it avoids accountability but also because it feels nice and its easy to do.
But nothing you said is wrong, I don’t think ill of you, not trying to catch you out, I agree with what you are saying. Was just trying to help you follow the thought you were on to see where it would get you.
I agree, the Chinese poster is on point about all their statements.
In this particular post. Remember, propaganda has to include some truth or it won’t work very well. That post is true. Whereas one would be pretty stupid to trust as true most of what the CCP-controlled media says.
It’s the American way to destabilize a country than pay for aid.
No wonder it doesn’t end up with net positive political good will.
In fairness, all countries play the destabilization games against each other. That’s the core of realpolitiks.
Yet few do it as openly as the states.
So, you are saying doing it covertly is better?
No, what I said was ‘Yet few do it as openly as the states.’.
Why are repubs so freakin divisive? Like, why not we lift one another up? Dumbasses
Burned.
After “gun violence”, he should’ve added “gun violence against children”.
She’s talking about the population density of fascists. America is first and China is last
Wtf are you talking about? China is also fascist, although in different ways.
No they aren’t and you should go read some of Robert Paxton’s books on fascism if you think they are.
China is indeed not fascist.
It is just an authoritarian police state with a smidge of genocide.
No arguments here. They are an authoritarian police state. Fascism is a specific ideology and thet aren’t pursuing it yet
You’re right, it’s missing some elements of fascism, while maintaining others. If you’d like to split hairs, I guess it matters. Either way, both nations are Fascist-Light
I’d argue America is going to be fascist soon but China isn’t attempting it.
It’s sad how few people understand fascism compared to how many think they do.
I think it’s perfectly fair to prioritize yourself first. Politicians should do that.
But why does she want China last? That’s just hatred.
I remember when political news were pictures of people shaking hands and making trade agreements. These days it’s all screenshots of social media posts made from someone hiding in a basement or gated community. Trump refusing to answer a telephone call from Canada while using his phone to tweet out more bullshit is a new low.
American politics might be two sided team game, but international politics are not. Unfortunately for the republicans, they desperately need an opponent to make themselves relevant. They simply don’t have anything else to offer.
Casual racism is very American.
Populism FIRST. FFY
Neither country really has a leg to stand on here. China sucks too.
Taiwan #1!
I think China will.take the Taiwan #1 and use it as an argument that they, in fact, are #1
The circus is in town! Two clowns duking it out in the digital colosseum: one’s waving a flag, the other’s throwing shit. Meanwhile, we’re all fucked sideways by the system they represent. But sure, keep tweeting your little hearts out while Rome burns. At least the engagement’s good, right? Christ, we’re so far down the rabbit hole, Alice would need a fucking space shuttle to find us… Pass the soma, I’m checking out.
China’s system is better than the US’s
Nowhere close lol
Give some examples of how Americas system is better?
China is a paper tiger economy built upon slave labor, fast consumerism, and environmental destruction. If and when such cultural habits change the consumer economy will collapse, and that’s with believing the fake numbers the Chinese government releases. Along with population decline and the top heavy population caused by the one child policy, the economy will stagnate even further.
China is 15-20 years behind on the technology curve for domestic research and production. Their current technology base is literally copied from the rest of the world.
Politically, massive degradation of rights and freedoms for citizens, civil rights violations against minorities, the religious, and the political opposition. They have actual concentration camps, not just detainment centers in the US people bring up.
China has one leg up on the US with a comprehensive health coverage… if you avoid being a forced organ donor for the elite.
Lol a lot of the stuff you said describing China is also describing the US. The real difference is the US has a better marketing department. Remember when the kindly pilgrims became best friends with the Indians in America?
I have a theory that America already was the “Nazis” back when they committed a genocide on native americans, except America never got stopped like the Nazis did.
Not a lot of that accurately describes America currently. And if we want to reach into history, China has a history or destroying a group of people to replace them with Han Chinese, and it is still currently happening.
No, both are bad, you don’t want a social credit system
To be fair, we have no idea how many COVID infections or deaths China had or how many prisoners they have. It isn’t like they are the most transparent with either matter.
Everything else he said checks out. 🇺🇲
We have 2 million prisoners for 330 million people.
They claim 1.6 million prisoners for their 1.4 billion people.
Even if it were double what China claims, per capita we keep far more of our people in bondage, because we found and disgustingly prioritize the private profit in it. More prisoners for private for profit prisons, and more slave labor leased out to for profit corporations.
We put people in cages using any excuse to increase quarterly earnings expectations for our sociopath class. “Land of the free,” Lo fucking L.
It’s “Land of the fee”
We’ve been saying it wrong the whole time.
Oh… Oh! That makes sense.
Would you like to buy the R? That will be one soul please
All the R have been bought and paid for. So have most of the D, for that matter.
“Lan_ of the f_ee”
It would be flatly unsurprising if china had well over double what they claim.
At this point I trust their government and our government equally.
As an American, I would take the word of any single European union member nation over the word of both China and the US claiming anything in unison.
At least China has the guts to call out the West for supporting the genocide in Gaza, something out own Democratic party seems wholly incapable of.
It is easy calling out genocides from other nations.
Call me when they talk about their own genocides.
Ignore their own genocide against muslims, focus on the Jews.
Even in that regard, reeducation camps are better than for-profit prisons. They have different goals in mind.
Forced labor and indoctrination compared to just forced labor. If we start calling for profit prisons time-out zones with chores will that placate you?
Orbán likes this post.
The fucks in the republic party literally invited Orbán to have a speech and how to get shit done, US is not even first at effectively controlling state media and politicians bleeding it’s country dry
Sometimes I forget that Hungary is part of the EU. And that Hungary and Turkey are part of NATO. It’s the kind of thing I don’t like remembering.
The number of imprisoned is the point he made, not the per capita.
Yeah, everyone knows the US has more people per capita
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Who told you that the US government?
It’s also a bit rich that the Chinese dude gets labeled by X as ‘state affiliated media’ (which it probably is) but X itself apparently not? Which it definitely is.
This whole screenshot is basically one state’s propaganda machine vs. another.
Just because the Chinese propaganda machine is acting the straight man in this particular interaction, doesn’t mean they don’t have skeletons in their own closet
A broken clock something something.
Yeah, while I agree with some of his jabs - it is immensely ironic that China is #1 in two of mentioned anti-US criticisms.
Go figure two assholes in a room and no one smells good
Yo very unrelated, but thank you for mentioning that phrase “skeletons in their own closet”! I’ve been listening to a song for a few months which uses that metaphor and I couldn’t exactly figure out what it meant (it’s in Greek and didnt expect that phrase to exist in english too). (This is the song if you care, lol.)
Germans have corpses in their basement.
I’ve seen that in English as well, as a more empathetic version of skeletons in the closet.
It exists in French too
And now you’re here!
