weird how he has been ranting non stop about “radical leftist” judges and their huge conspiracy, and they need to purge them… and then some supporter goes and attacks a judge.
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kinda exactly like stochastic terrorism and not too hard to prove in courtI hope this judge has a good lawyer!
I think they know a few, they will be fine.
What I don’t understand is, why would we need to wait for someone’s house to be set on fire to make it stick in court? The intent and actions of the stochastic terrorist are still the same.
Our legal system is pretty stupid that way.
in past cases i’ve only heard of it being pursued in civil courts after the fact… feels like there’s something different when talking about judges but he always qualifies his rhetoric…
like “and there’s only one thing left to do, with this giant conspiracy using the law to manipulate the government! (pause) pursue legal action within the guidelines of the law, of course!”.
it seems a lot like he’s implying legal action is pointless and it’s time to do illegal things….
also looking at the director of the fbi and attorney general doesn’t give me hope they’ll pursue this one….There is no law. If you want justice, it won’t be via legal means, those are too badly corrupted to be relied on.
It’s what they want to have happen. They just need it to be blameable on anyone other than violent psychopaths.
Somehow they still think “influencing” the message means “controlling” the message.
How is this not bigger news!
I have to listen to weeks about some random podcaster getting shot, but a judge whose made judgements against trump has their house burned down and everyone is all quite?
Goes against CBS news all Trump slant
“Why are Democrats letting themselves be victims of arson? Here’s why this is bad for Biden”
To be fair, Kirk’s murder was graphic and in a public event. He was a pretty-well known figure, whereas most people don’t know who this specific judge is. The arson didn’t happen in a packed crowd in broad daylight.
This probably should be bigger news, but is makes sense why it isn’t as widely talked about
Kirk might have caught a stray bullet from a hunter. We can’t just start speculating!
Charlie Kirk just does that sometimes. 🤷🏼♂️
Because we still don’t have a cause for the fire.This could be arson or it could be a freak accident.
MAGAs always start blaming Libz immediately, we can do the same thing. The thing is, we’re probably going to be right, it’s almost ALWAYS a right-wing whacko.
What does anyone gain by doing so?
Arson is rarely the cause of fires.
Fires are rare in general, and the timing of this one is very suspicious.
Ok that still changes nothing. We still have no evidence.
But 100% of arson causes fire damage. It’s not like a car, where there’s a purpose other than fire damage.
We should outlaw arson.
Right now no one has any evidence of wrongdoing. The most likely cause if fires is accidents.
While it is possible this was arson we have no reason to assume it is right now.
Shhhh with your logical thinking, we need to jump to conclusions and start blaming each other before learning any facts.
I understand what you mean, but my criticism is with the news/reporting.
Weve had multiple democratic politicians be attacked and murdered whose whole time in the spotlight doesn’t cover the media attention that Kirk got.
Hell, we still don’t really know why Kirk was shot.
In this political climate, a judge’s house going up in flames should be a huge story. Sure it could end up being nothing, but so did the story with Kirk.
This is like the guy who shot up the LDS church last week. Everyone is claiming political violence when it turned out he hates Mormons.
Yeah, once people heard his real beef, everyone said “Oh, well, that makes sense. Carry on.”
“We can’t make this a narrative about how trans people are all crazy? Never mind.”
Good Critical Thinking Skills “That alone proves he’s a liberal.”
Terrible coincidence
it could be?
Dems aren’t big on declaring Martyrs.
Dems SUCK ASS at everything, but especially messaging.
Got a week ban from Reddit for saying this guy deserves a swirly. Apparently the threshold for what constitutes as violent rhetoric is super low for these snowflakes.
That’s hilarious.
A fucking swirly.
For the Nazi.
Someone I know once said, in a discussion of Trump, that they needed to buy more pins for their voodoo doll. Got banned for threats of violence. Some Reddit admins are unfit to be allowed out on their own in public, let alone to hold a position of even trivial responsibility.
Reddit got sold to the corpos. It’s a publicly traded company now. That means propaganda is now one of their biggest revenue sources in all likelihood.
The wild thing about Stephen Miller is that, even if he never opened his mouth. Even if you had no idea about his politics or his stance on literally anything. You could just look at this guy and think “Yeah…this guy looks like he definitely has an SS uniform in his closet at home.”
He could be a nobody on the street, and you’re a casting director for a big time WW2 film looking for extras to play nazi officers. You see him and you think “My god…he’s perfect.”
The little nazi puke is scared it will be traced back to him.
If that shitstain isn’t charged with incitement then I quit.
Might as well quit now, then.
Listen, hear me out.
He caused this. His rhetoric caused this.Stochastic Terrorism, it’s a core MAGA strategy.
forced to jump from the first floor to escape the blaze. He is understood to have suffered multiple broken bones
Am I missing something here?
Beach houses that are close to the ocean shore are typically on stilts here in the case of flooding caused by hurricanes.
As a result, the 1st floor can be at least 3-4m above the ground level.
That or they’re old.
Given how much he “melts down” shouldn’t he look more like trump by now?
He’s getting there. Dude is a millennial. Looks like he’s in his mid 50s.
If his face wasn’t lifeless and hateful he’d look younger even with the baldness. His skin isn’t wrinkly but his withered soul makes him look half dead.
case closed. wrap it up.
How did some production designer think THAT was a good idea?
Because this convention was in the aftermath of Jan 6, and they were scrambling to both normalize insurrection attempts as well as “own the libs.” From that perspective it was a perfect theme. We should ensure the moniker sticks.
Which is why I always say that MAGA will ultimately be destroyed by their own virtuosic incompetence. It’s almost inevitable, they are just too stupid and ignorant to succeed. An eventual fatal fuck up is inevitable.
This is a perfect example. When they should have been running as fast as possible in the opposite direction, they actually thought it was a good idea to double down, and embrace domestic terrorism in the wake of their treasonous insurrection.
In the future, when the PROGRESSIVE Dems take back America, this photo will be a major piece of evidence in establishing MAGA as a treasonous, racist, terrorist hate group. They can’t blame this on Libz, this is their own doing. They freely admitted it, and promoted to America and the World. No walking that one back.
That will allow MAGA to be dismantled, abolished, and prohibited.
The Nazi regime didn’t implode, despite its incompetence and endless faction-fighting. It took all that, plus vast amounts of military force, to force them out.
Who said anything about Nazis? The Nazis weren’t incompetent, just the opposite, mostly. They knew what the fuck they were doing, that’s why they were so hard to destroy. So hard, in fact, that apparently we didn’t even succeed like we thought we did.
MAGAs are far different. They literally embrace ignorance as a virtue. They will reject intelligent concepts, simply because they are intelligent, or worse, simply because their “opponents” endorse those concepts. MAGAThink is: They are for it, so we are automatically against it, no matter how good an idea it is.
However, every day that passes makes it more and more inevitable that dislodging and crushing MAGA is almost certainly going to take some serious violence. Hopefully we won’t have to bomb entire cities to rubble, like it took for Germany to straighten out.
I hope you’re right. Repugs could easily succumb to their own stupidity, sure. But it’s a tall task ahead for progressives.
They not only have to beat the corporate dems who presently run the party and also rig the primaries to remain in control, but then they have to go on to beat republicans rigging national elections. All while the corporate media is demagoguing them like it’s the red scare 2.0. With enough people behind them, it can happen, but how to break through to such a downtrodden and heavily propagandized people?
If you think of Republicans like Sinn Fein, then “maga” is basically the terrorist wing, so maga is like their IRA. Except in this case, the conservatives are fighting for the end of democratic principles (and human rights, etc.).
So the opposite of the IRA
Someone please let Stephen miller actually melt down
PeeWee Himmler imagines himself to be a Hitler-style orator, so he melts down all the time, and it’s hilarious. Check out this recent one where he addressed cops going into Memphis.
The whole thing is funny, but the end when he starts convincing himself that they are “ruthless” and “hardcore” is hilarious. He is the absolute archetype of the smarmy coward trying to act tough, and fooling NOBODY. You just know that if he took one punch to the face, he’d collapse like a sack of potatoes, and start crying and begging for mercy.
it doesn’t matter what side “did it” (dumb framing) because this is the exact kind of response i can directly support. as a leftist, i am using this opportunity to say your outrage at those in power is justified regardless of your placement on the political spectrum. they are working for none of us while oppressing all of us. if you are contributing labor you are being exploited by an oligarchy. you are being killed for profit and imperialism.
this is the anger of the people. this is what happens when our voices are rejected and painted as unreasonable. you cannot cage an animal and expect no thrashing.
Ok but most acts of political violence and terrorism are done by rwnj
i know, but we need to capture the anger of the people that is motivating these rwnjs. because it is us vs them, but these folks are being lied to about who “them” is. this could be an opportunity to correct that, to point at this and say “the reasoning is flawed, the conclusion is flawed, but the anger was already there because there was something real to be angry about.” they are having their anger exploited. they feel rage, but they’re being told it’s immigrants! where’s the rage come from? the reality that they are being fucked over by the system.
we can use this to speak to them.
I think first we’ll need to calm the anger before anyone can listen, let alone think through the evidence. Otherwise when anything pops off, we’re going to end up with the wrong people in positions of power.
you are not going to calm anything down. the anger is righteous. it is merely misdirected and manipulated by fascists. we can’t calm the anger but we can make it work for the people instead.
What I’m saying is people don’t think straight when they’re angry. Yes the anger is righteous, but if you haven’t noticed, they’re blaming outside entities, not their own.
what do you think i mean when i say to use their anger? i am maintaining we redirect the outrage. its like you ignored everything i said about having it work for us as opposed to against us.
I am saying people are blinded by anger and dig in if you try to change their minds. They have to calm enough to read and critically evaluate information properly. They even reject their own Western MSM to dig in.
A quick flame or slow burn? Are you putting food on the grill while flames shoot out or when the coal looks lifeless but is red-hot inside?
No I’m not ignoring anything. Are you missing anything?
