https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426 (live updates)
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Alex Jeffrey Pretti, 37.
No criminal history. A lawful gun owner with a valid conceal carry permit.
I haven’t commented on any of the content of this story until now.
Pay very close attention the the ‘agent’ wearing the grey coat, with his back to the camera before he turns around and walks towards it holding a gun.
He goes in hands empty, retrieves the gun from the suspects waistband, at the small of his back, and leaves before the first shot is fired.
Every shot was fired, by federal agents, at an unarmed individual. Plain murder.
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multiple angles synced up together (this ones being updated as new angles come in)
This is horrific.
Anything coming from DHS/ICE or any other executive branch entity should be considered a lie until independent reporting from a non major news outlet confirms otherwise.
I do not believe that was his gun as of right now.
While you are correct, I do think it was his gun, but they lied by implying he was there to ‘assassinate’ ICE and that he approached them ‘with a gun’ (technically the truth, but the gun was no where near being used by the victim).
Newer footage shows them disarming him by removing his gun. He never had it in his hand or reached for it.
The video shows one of the gestapo cunts running away from the incident with a gun in his hand, which he didn’t have at first. If that’s the case and it’s the victim’s gun then he was already disarmed before the murdered him.
Having a gun in America is to prevent this from happening. Man was clearly being assaulted, where’s the “self-defense” argument for citizens?
I don’t get it…
So if you have a gun you get shot dead. But USA has been holding on to the right of guns for ages… But for what reason? If you get shot for having one I don’t see the point
I think globally we need to start coming to terms with the fact that America is not a country of “logic” and “reason”.
Maybe it’s because I live here, but I’ve been saying that for years.
Logic does not apply to the US. It never has. Well at least since I started forming memories here.
$$$ is how it’s spelled in America
I think globally we need to start coming to terms with the fact that America is
not a country of “logic” and “reason”a very palpable threat to global safety akin the Nazi Germany in the late 1930s.
He didn’t get shot for having one. He got shot just because. It appears they conveniently “found” a gun on him afterwards in order to fabricate some justification for killing him. Even if it was his own gun, it clearly wasn’t in his hands at any point in this clip.
I’m assuming these brainwashed zombies known as ICE, have been ordered to plant guns on protestors.
I think the gun was actually there, nowhere near being used, and they found it before shooting him.
My guess, someone saw a gun, yelled ‘gun’, and an agent assumed that must have meant that somehow magically the guy had a gun in his hands that he didn’t see and just opened fire…
Or else he drew his gun to be prepared for a gunfight and pulled the trigger…
Or someone else made the case that the ICE guy who took the gun from the victim ended up discharging the gun into the ground as a first shot, and another officer heard that gunfire and just started blasting, with no idea where the shot was fired from or toward.
So in short, yeah, he had a gun on his person, in no way a threat to the ICE people since his hands never went anywhere near it, and ICE fired on him.
Terrible enough incident on its own, even worse is Noem lying to justify it and declare no possible wrongdoing or even improper procedure, and again they are impeding real law enforcement investigation…
I think OP of the post is correct. Play the video in slow motion and watch the grey coat guy. He approaches with empty hands and appears to retrieve a weapon from the suspect’s back and is walking away with it before the first shot is fired.
So the suspect was likely unarmed when the shooting starts.
I am really sure it was is gun. Even before he was shot dead. Yeah sure.
I’ve watched this video several times, pausing at every frame I could. You briefly see the guy’s hands. None of them were holding a gun. Just because he was carrying wasn’t an excuse to shoot him. Especially when you had enough agents present to control each limb at that point shooting the suspect was more hazardous to the other officers around. Let alone the 5 extra rounds they fired into him while he was lying flat on his back. They’re desperately trying to find a justification for this.
Watch the Nazi in the grey jacket, very clearly nothing in his hands. He jumps in and is visibly digging at the victims waistband. Then, as another Nazi executes the victim, you can see the greyshirt skuttle away with the brown gun they’re picturing. One Nazi had his gun when the other Nazi shot him.
The agent wearing a grey coat goes in empty handed, retrieves the suspects gun from his waistband at the small of his back, then exits holding the weapon before the first shot is fired.
He was in possession of a firearm; but he was disarmed before agents opened fire and murdered him. At no point was he holding the gun and/or a threat.
I will DEFEND to MY DEATH the Right to SHOOT UP A SCHOOL! And this Man CLEARLY was NOT Shooting up a School!
-Republicans!
Just remember. Jeffries and the democrats just voted to increase ICEs funding with the Republicans.
7 Democrats voted with them. Not all the Democrats. My rep voted NO.
Reps. Henry Cuellar (Texas), Jared Golden (Maine), Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Wash.), Laura Gillen (N.Y.), Don Davis (N.C.), Tom Suozzi (N.Y.) and Vicente Gonzalez (Texas) voted for it. They should be primaried and vilified. Jefferies didn’t whip the vote, but he did vote against it.
Now it’s important to pressure senators to not pass the bill.
Get their asses. Make ICE toxic for Democrats.
How many democrats voted in support?
Why do Americans put up with this?
Why don’t YOU do something about it?
should we invade?
I vote yes. But we should start with a blockade, to hasten the collapse. Prepare to trap and wear-down the inevitable strike package. Once their trillion dollar toys are gone, they are down to a level they are far less familiar with.
Nah, let it burn. Better they nuke themselves than any of the rest of us.
Advocate for murder of innocent civilians, excellent. Well done. Good foresight. Nothing could go wrong.
I’m not an American. It’s not my country. I will not fix your problem for you.
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Don’t forget the other gigantic bunch of morons who neglected to vote because their weak little minds are easily manipulated by divide-and-conquer propaganda, bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL, all you gotta do is stroke their ego a little bit: “You’re the righteous one by staying home and sitting on your lazy ignorant ass on Election Day! They should give you a goddamned medal for not participating!”, even though the mouth-breathers showed the entire world EXACTLY who they are, since 2015 and more importantly, on January 6, 2021.
THIS WAS ALL EASILY PREVENTABLE
especially a pedophile that wants to commit incest, and emulates hitler.
Trump didnt win the popular vote in 2016. He lost in 2020. Then he wins with 49% in a freak election. Opposing party has been calling him fascist from day 1. But glad you get sadistic pleasure from the suffering of innocents who had nothing to do with this fascist admin.
popular votes dont really count towards electing a president anyways. the disporportiante representation of EC, and voter suppression is where is it all at.
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First of all I vote in every election, phone bank and canvassed when younger, actively protested multiple years when younger seeing fellows around me arrested en masse, and I always supported Biden/Kamala in the recent election despite myself being much more left and a Palestine supporter/believe in Israeli genocide/apartheid. I am the last person in my immediate family with no one to take care of my animals or aging peripheral relatives, and you eurocunts and rabid leftists judge me collectively with the nation unless I directly join a revolution. I was born into this with no consent in my choice of government and inceedibly limited influence and I will proudly flee than throw my life away and have my last moments be bleeding out alone. I will still speak out freely, and always defend myself and innocents around me best I can, but no one should be forced to be a martyr. Your collective judgment against all of us shows how immature you still are thinking. The USA is huge and more like a collective of smaller countries and it’s insane to compare us morally responsible akin to electing Hitler when it’s so obvious where and who is voting for this Christo-fascist nightmare. Rust belt, bible belt, deep south racist neo-confederates. But yeah keep spewing your vindictive accusatory garbage at me I’m sure it’s super helpful.
Liberals are caught up in great man theory. Project 2025 didn’t care which conservative reactionary was elected. Stop giving Trump credit for The Heritage Foundation’s work. I don’t care where monsters live. I’m down to slay them.
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Any link that doesn’t require a log in?
We need more community defense classes now more than ever. Seriously!
You need every second citizen carrying a rifle and those citizens being ready to fire when the government starts acting up. Sure, weapons training too, but just saying that you don’t fight even the smallest handguns with unarmed self-defence skills.
Holy fuck, this is bad. What are you fucking doing, America?
Nothing.
They did nothing when the fat paedo was elected the first time. And they did almost nothing after the orange traitor stole top secret documents. And now they are once again doing fuck all whilst the fat paedo takes over their country like an unfunny comedy dictator.Thanks. What are you doing?
I’m not from america, but I am asking questions and posting on the internet asking for action. Which means I’m doing more than most americans…
Can France please save us?
Seems fair, we helped them last time with their fascist problem. They help us with ours.
I bet an occupied US would even get socialized medicine
To be fair, they helped us before then with our king issue.
This isn’t to say they shouldn’t though. It sounds like we’ve got a good partnership going of helping each other with their authoritarian issues.
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What do you propose instead?
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Today is literally a general strike across Minneapolis and neighboring areas you fucking twat.
Over half the country is paralyzed by frigid temps and storms this weekend. It is not the statement you are expecting. A general No-BUY that lasts for months may help but honestly, there are many that just don’t have that discipline. Even last year, during winter, we had lackluster engagement. I mean I am over 60 and can’t risk falling on icy sidewalks. First off, let’s see what we can do to protect the integrity of homes (barred windows, double deadbolt locks on all egresses) Even boarding up windows with wood/locked shutters) in order to prevent home invasions. Locked fences. You know… make those MFers work for it. We can be “Meals on Wheels” to deliver nutrition. Provide families with loyal fierce pets that will alert them to anyone crossing their property. Distribute gas masks, goggles. Put up cameras that are not controlled by some tech collaborator. Esp. cameras that keep the footage inside.
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Hey how’s the weather in St. Petersburg today, Ivan?
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Piss in the wind, they know you all have to work and the rest of the country is still in nothing ever happens omg did you see Fallout last night?! mode.
I just want to say, I really hope you pronounced it twat like @, and not twat like twot.
Here’s hoping the strikes continue and gain momentum nationwide. I’d heard it was supposed to be happening in other cities on Friday, but not sure how well that went.
Yeah I hope it spreads too. Gotta start somewhere!
Sigh… A one day protest on a Saturday where the vast majority of participants either already had the day off or requested it from their employer is in no way a strike. It’s a large protest and an important event, but it’s just not a strike.
It’s like the actual concept of a strike is being erased from the public consciousness. Strikes don’t have a fixed duration, they have a list of demands, and the strike goes on until those demands are met or the strikers capitulate.
A bunch of Minnesotans taking a day off work to protest sends a strong message and mildly inconveniences businesses.
A bunch of Minnesotans saying “we’re not going back to work until ICE is out of our state” is what an actual general strike would look like. It would be hugely powerful if strikers held fast, but it would also be incredibly hard to organize and pull off, because you’re basically asking large numbers of people to be willing to get fired.
I’m not trying to downplay what’s going on in Minnesota - it’s good and important, but it saddens me to see people calling this a general strike. A general strike is the ultimate weapon of the working class. Calling a mass protest a general strike feels like saying “this is the best we can do,” and it absolutely is not.
America has successfully villified unions for decades, it would not surprise me one bit if they have also systematically erased any education about actual strikes as part of the already well-documented gutting of general education and overall indoctrination the American right has performed on the population.
Okay that’s fair
They would also need support from other states. A general strike is adhered to by everyone.
I agree a prolonged and universal strike is needed. Have you taken steps to help organize locally where you are? If not I’m very happy to provide you resources and if possible put you in contact with organizers local to your area.
I don’t think concerted violence here in America will do anything except to empower the executive branch to invoke the insurrection act and declare marshall law.
However targeted assinations in a minecraft server have been proven very effective in a more historical context.
First off, a change of venue, away from the people earning 5 and 6 figure wages, and toward those earning at least high 7-figures. These ICE clowns aren’t the problem; the problem is the bastards sending them.
Let obscenely rich people know they are going to take the heat anywhere ICE shows up, and watch how quickly ICE is disbanded.
They can start here.
A 5-figure wage isn’t a lot of money.
I see your point. It seems like when you have gangs of ICE menacing a lone citizen like cockroaches on a smear of bacon grease… some kind of pest control should be dispatched.> Alex Jeffrey Pretti
What are you fucking doing, America?
We’re being murdered?
Kinda weird for a country that said: ‘we accept dead children at schools in the name of defending from tyranny’
The same people who kept saying that are the same ones doing the murdering now.
Tyranny is when people have pronouns or vaccines.
Tyranny is when you care for your fellow man and try to uplift the poor and downtrodden.
^ this person second amendments!
Not weird at all if you actually understood American culture and geography.
He is intentionally invading cities that don’t fall in that murica stereotype. Cities that allow women the right to choose, are pro gay rights, and don’t ban books. These cities would have much stricter gun laws if we could without courts shutting it down.
You’d think they’d be invading cities with the highest number of illegal immigrants.
If we had stricter gun laws then there would be nothing to stop these thugs, who are armed by the federal government and would be excempt from those laws, from exectuting whoever they want. It would be 100% worse than it already is.
Yes, because all Americans are the same entity and statements like this are helpful and insightful… /s
Yep. We all collectively said that. The whole country did. Even the dead kids.
The ones committing the murder are also Americans.
In the same way that the Nazis were German I guess
If you ask Russian influencers on Lemmy, they’d tell you we’re LETTING it happen. It’s our fault, you see. All our fault. Whether we’re Trump himself or a starving mother of three working three jobs.
Fuck this noise. Let the world unite under the banner of those who oppose fascism.
Fear, helplessness, disorganization… We’re living an example of modern political battleground you can’t even imagine.
Dude was getting curb stomped and head smashed in by a blunt object before the shooting… So my question is simple… If a gang of masked men, who outnumber you 7:1, and are literally smashing your head in with “non-lethal” crowd management devices and causing life altering injuries while you are pinned down under thread of death, why wouldn’t self defence be justified? I’m not saying the gun was his, or that he had control of it, or that he even fired it, but I am saying if ICE is doing this to people why shouldn’t they defend themselves. Black Panthers just got some recruiting. Arm yourselves and openly carry. It’s your right so use it.
Let’s go further than that. If you know that you will be killed if you don’t resist, and you will certainly be killed if you resist while they’ve already started… maybe you shouldn’t lie down and not resist, and you definitely shouldn’t let them start in the first place.
hell, maybe you need some friends to back you up and start some bullet dancing to get those thugs off your back.
Best Americans can do is stand around and bitch, unfortunately. I want to be proven otherwise, still waiting for the proof though.
Getting murdered. Are you somehow not paying attention?
Collapsing. It’s going to suck. But America needs to go.
Are we sure it’s not already gone, and we are simply witnessing its cadaveric spasms?
As doomist or accelerationist or pessimistic as many people call me, I am not sure even I am quite yet there mentally to fully admit that…
…even though you may very well be correct.
Holy shit
There was no reason… pure murder
Yeah, just shoots him while he’s on the ground. Wtf.
How long until ice starts unloading full cartriges into crowds of protestors and vice-versa? This is really shaping up to be an actual civil war. Trump and his cohort was used to the politicians of democrats and not the actual people who vote for them because theres no better choice. These people will fight back. It will take one of those black panthers with a handheld cannon to be arround when something similar to this happens. Im surprised it hasnt escalated yet. I have mixed feelings about this cause i know theres no such thing as a peacefull revolution but seeing not only the innocent but even the the perpetrators die violently pains my heart. A lot of us arent idealists but we still enjoy peace, but the voilent and disgusting ruling class is forcing all of us to change and accept that violence is the solution. It was in the case of fascist italy, nazi germany and now fascist usa as well. Good luck my fellow people who just want to have a normal life but were born on the wrong side of the north atlantic.
We should not be focusing protests at these ICE fucks, and we should not be protesting in cities and working-class neighborhoods.
Every atrocity committed by the agents of this oligarchy, we need to be picketing the oligarchs.
Here’s five good places to start.
Watch the guy with jeans and grey jacket on top of the victim. He knew what was about to happen.
They fucking scurryed away. Not joke scurryed. Literally scurryed!
This is our big bad, what the hell is going on in Minneapolis. Like a bunch of bullies playing a deadly prank
That’s not even a murder, that is a straight up execution.
Fuck ice, all ice members should be strung upmfrom a tree.
What’s gonna be next? Night of the Long Knives for people who are against it?
Apparently the guy was armed with a gun. Might the first shot have been from him?
- You can see them take his gun and ran away with it before any shots are fired. They waited until he was disarmed to murder.
How the fuck would anyone pull of a shot while being pinned by that many people? Do you actually believe that or are you just spouting whatever bullshit allows you to defend fascists?
Very unlikely I know. I’m doing my best not to jump to conclusions or take sides.
It’s long past time to start taking sides.
If you’re “not taking sides” when one side consists of fascists and nazis, you have taken a side
For what it’s worth, I voted for Harris and I live 20 minutes from where this happened.
That isn’t worth shit when you’re giving the nazis the benefit of the doubt. What the fuck is wrong with you.
By jumping to far less likely conclusions?
Even if he did draw his gun it doesn’t matter, ICE had 7 men on him, they had maced him and they have bullet resistant vests on. He also didn’t break any laws and had the right to carry the gun for self defence.
What exactly is your point!?
