I always thought it was cheeky that a lot of pistols in Fallout take 10mm ammo.
10mm ammo is a real thing, tho
And is expensive as fuck. As is the downgrade, .40 cal.
Maybe it’s changed since I last had to purchase any, but it was twice as expensive as .45 bullets, and the guns always seemed subpar to other calibers anyway.
Ah, good to know.
Tbf 10mm Auto is a real caliber (that the FBI tried to use but “it hurted their wrists” so .40SW was invented.)
https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/3212-magtech-10mm-180-gr-fmj.html
SW stands for Soft Wankers.
LOL it might as well since their weak ass wrists couldn’t take it!
(For those who are wondering it’s of course actually “Smith & Wesson.”)
Ah, yes, that also makes sense.
Sore wrists

A system of measurement in which something like 15/16 of an inch is seen as a sensible way to measure a small distance. Not much else to say.
I love love love that we use ounces for both weight and volume 🤩 I love love love that we use volume for measuring things like sour cream in recipes but weight in the store! America number 1!!! 🇨🇱
I use the metric system for almost all of my projects. I’ve never seen a 3d printer that used the english system and after a decade of use I really hate the english system.
5 cm is 1.9685 inches, which is about weeee big…. 🤏
Or one LLAP 🖖
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It’s a clanker.
You’ve unlocked: the number 10
Bro 10mm rounds exist
.40 S&W and 10mm auto are both 10mm rounds!
I wonder, did you feel like “cool” writing this comment? It’s an honest question. Sorry in advance if it sounds like a jerk question.
Hah, is fine. No I didn’t feel “cool.” I’m just the kind of weirdo that was obsessed with guns from a technical point of view as a kid. Think of me more as the kid just slightly on the spectrum who collected data on everything firearm related and then wrote mods for games like rogue spear that tried to adhere to the data. I didn’t shoot more than a .22 rifle or 16 and 12 gauge shotguns until my 20s. This was one of the factoids I still have floating around up there.
Now in my 40s, I still haven’t owned a gun personally, but have been to the range many times with friends (I buy more ammo than I shoot and drinks after). Heck, a few weeks ago I got to put a hundred rounds or so through a friend’s suppressed FN P90 (a very surreal experience), a very nice .223, and pistols in 4 calibers (.22 and 9mm with suppressors, .45, and .357).
Thank you for answering respectfully. Also, for the FN P90… Jesus.
.40 S&W and 10mm auto are both 10mm rounds!
I don’t trust you, stranger number man! And the above… well that just proves there’s a conspiracy!
Brah, does stranger danger apply to the metric system??
Oh my, yes!

B’aint nothin stranger than an american, if that helps.
Yeah but they’re not interchangeable.
Here’s the funny thing. A 9mm is closer to a cm. The rim is 9.96mm.
Can US people imagine their size in a whim?
Probably not. It’s a fairly rare round outside of fallout.
We can’t imagine 9mm on a whim either.
“Anything but the metric system”… Well kinda
The metric system, but with extra steps.
The metric system but with warthogs, refrigerators and football fields. That’s .64 football fields, or .48 decawarthogs.
One AAA battery
Centimeters are on the American ruler…
Yeah Stormy said it was only a centimeter
We also put inches on ours, yet not a single soul has ever used that side. I think it’s only to constantly remind us we are superior ;)
Screens are measured in inches
Is Zoll and Inch the same thing?
Yes.
cries in American inferiority
Were taught to think in inches at fashion design school.
Most people by far don’t attend fashion design school.
The only thing on a real American ruler is red white and blue .
I thought he is orange
His preferred title is typically translated as “leader” not “ruler” that’s got monarchist elements that they can’t quite make stick yet
You can’t rule a country off a cliff, only lead.
Its about 40 caliber.
How many grain?
Width, not length.
volume? (i thought grain was volume, sort-of)
It’s projectile weight. The common sizes of 9x19mm ammunition (what we usually mean when we say 9mm), are 115 grain, 124 grain, and 147 grain. NATO standard is 124, but most people shoot 115 at the range because it has less weight and it cheaper.
Lighter projectiles, all else being equal, will have higher muzzle velocities, but will also slow down more quickly and are more prone to wind shift.
Mass, like a church? Like like the measures on the façade of the Torre Civica in Assisi?
/s, #anything but metric
A grain is just an old system of weight. 1 grain is about 64 mg. I was tested on grain based dosages in school but never saw them used in real life.
I wonder, when they get a grown-up president again, will they finally also begin to move to the 21st century?
You’re being way too optimistic
Again???
As an American mechanical engineer, i do more unit conversions between metric and standard/ uscs than many people do in a lifetime
Hell just today I designed a custom spring in both as i need it asap and have to settle for the inch
We occasionally get engineering diagrams from clients in the US and they’re always going on about screws that are 2/3 of an inch long. It’s not just that you’re not using metric you’re using a weird fraction and not a decimal.
It’s super confusing when you get into high precision stuff because then they start going on about 128th of an inch. Just tell me how big you want it, stop telling me what fraction of a different measurement it is. Surely there is something below inch that you could use. I still wouldn’t know what you were talking about, but at least it would look less stupid when you wrote it down.
A thou is a milliinch
Centiinch? Millifoot?
Every company ive ever worked for has been metric. All American companies. But i do machines and instruments.
I deal with standard / uscs units because suppliers still do
Isn’t the UK just as bad? You have a zoo of units over there. Stone, miles, pints, etc.
The US is the only country that uses non-metric units when doing anything industrial though. I might buy a pint of milk but I’m not going to measure in anything but metres and centimetres.
This is fair. I see no reason to drop feet and inches for day to day use but I’d consider it scandalous if I saw an astronomer using anything but a meter
Canadian engineer here. Although we use the metric system in principle, in reality we use feet and inches for everything. There are lots of benefits to using base 12 for measurements.
The number 12 has six factors, which are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 12. It is the smallest number to have six factors, the largest number to have at least half of the numbers below it as divisors, and is only slightly larger than 10. (The numbers 18 and 20 also have six factors but are much larger.) Ten, in contrast, only has four factors, which are 1, 2, 5, and 10.
I get the Europeans hate it though because only the people who live near Chernobyl can count to 12 on their fingers.
The thing is that outside of North America people aren’t terrified to death of decimals. We actually use them and find the process simple. So those factors of yours are completely irrelevant to us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duodecimal
Sounds like your terrified of duodecimals. Base 12 number systems are better at somethings than base 10 and a number of mathematicians believe it’s a superior number system all round and easier to teach to young people. And metric would work equally well in theory with either base 10 or base 12.
There are lots of benefits to using base 12 for measurements.
12 is better than 10, I’ll give you that. But 100 is better than 144, and 1000 is way better than 1728.
And that doesn’t even get to 0.1 versus 1/12, or 0.01 versus 1/144.
So 12 might be a better standalone number, but it’s a terrible base to work in.
But 144 is better than 100, for the exact same reason that 12 is better than 10?
There’s a reason measured angles go to 360ths, then subdivided by 60 or even by 60 again.
100 is as terrible a base as 10, and you run into it all the time if you’re designing something in metric; you can’t divide by 3 evenly.
If you look at your hand when it is wide open and palm up you can use the tip of your thumb to touch any of the 12 (four fingers each with three) sections of your fingers. Counting in 12 might be very intuitive for early humans - or might not. Who knows.
Sure, but does my 5/32" drill hit go left or right of the 7/64" on my drill bit sorting block?..
5/32 is 10/64, maybe you can figure it out from there.
The thing is, we just use whole numbers. If you get under 1, then you move down by one SI prefix et voilà, you have whole numbers again
I’ve never thought of counting on fingers as a good reason for using it for units. But since our numeric system is base 10 (likely because of having 10 fingers indeed), it’s easier to have our unit systems as base 10 too. If we all learned to think in base 12 from ground up, having base 12 units would make a lot more sense too
Btw you can count to 12 on your fingers with one hand. Starting from the end of the index finger tap each segment of the “remaining” four fingers with your thumb.
I heard someone claim that’s how Babylonians invented and used the base 12 system in the first place.
I know it’ll never happen but I’m still camp duodecimal, all the way.
Why don’t they just round that guy’s votes up to 60?
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