If it was the one thing to keep Trump in office and therefore out of prison, yes, indeed.

Don’t underestimate this administration’s cruelty.

Without a doubt

heck we are the blueprint for a lot stuff like this in fact the Nazis studied us for protips on how to do Industrialized racism

Well they certainly could go much much worse. The regime and their base are so far from anything being based in reality I don’t think anyone can truly be certain where this will go.

And you can just read about early ish days fascism in Germany and see how that meshes with this Regime and it’s historical context. In no particular order :

• Legislature ineffective and captured/ aligned
• Judiciary captured /placed
• Executive controlled (by proxy)
• Intimidation / Terror Squad
• Industry leaders largely aligned
• Populous tired and under economical hardship
• Extreme militarization
• Strong and largely aligned surveillance system
• Scapegoating / internal Enemy phantasms
• History of ineffective Governance / Corruption
• Generally unrepresentative and unstable Political System
• Moderate / Ineffective International push-back
• Unpredictable and Hostile foreign Policy

There are also lines that haven’t been crossed yet but there are not a lot before we get to the really Bad ones. So yes Large scale incarceration and killing against internal resistance, or simply against the ‘racialized other’ are maybe already the next steps if MAGA(and the reaction to it) keeps on this trek.

There could be some kind of thing to fan the flames and lead into the big Bads including probably some external War as well.

Or there could be circumstances that stop this insanity before we get there. But holy hell Americans are way to chill about all of this currently and MAGA certainly won’t stop until they are made to stumble and fall. Could be self inflicted of course but if the pressure is higher the chance of a fumble goes way up. So every resistance is worth the attempt at this point, and if the ship can still be pulled around there have to be real consequences otherwise it’s just gonna be this again on a few decade cycle. I mean this shit is already worrying over here and in Germany well we seem to rhyme politically with the US of ten or so years ago so …

For me this certainly is Fascist and we all should know how that goes if it truly gets to go.

Look into US involvement with the Tlatelolco massacre. It was effectively order by the US. If they are willing to do that to someone else they will eventually be willing to do that to you. The death count you see on wikipedia is almost certainly an understatement they locked them in a square and shot at them like fish in a barrel

That in response to Mexican government concerns over the security of the Olympic Games, the Pentagon sent military radios, weapons, ammunition and riot control training material to Mexico before and during the crisis.

The Olympia Battalion members wore white gloves or white handkerchiefs tied to their left hands to distinguish themselves from the civilians and prevent the soldiers from shooting them

Captain Ernesto Morales Soto stated that “immediately upon sighting a flare in the sky, the prearranged signal, we were to seal off the aforementioned two entrances and prevent anyone from entering or leaving.”

The soldiers responded by firing into the nearby buildings and into the crowd, hitting not only the protesters, but also watchers and bystanders. Demonstrators and passersby alike, including students, journalists (including Italian reporter Oriana Fallaci), and children, were hit by bullets, and mounds of bodies soon lay on the ground.

Olympia Battalion members pushed people and ordered them to lie on the ground near the elevator walls. People claim these men were the people who shot first at the soldiers and the crowd.

Video evidence also points out that at least two companies of the Olympia Battalion hid themselves in the nearby apartment buildings and set up a machine gun in an apartment in the Molino del Rey Building

Thousands of students gathered in the square and, as you say, the government version is that the students opened fire. Well, there’s been pretty clear evidence now that there was a unit that was called the Brigada Olímpica, or the Olympic Brigade, that was made up of special forces of the presidential guard, who opened fire from the buildings that surrounded the square, and that that was the thing that provoked the massacre.

U.S. officials stood resolutely by Díaz Ordaz after Tlatelolco

in a review of “contingency scenarios” drafted by the U.S. Embassy in November, the ambassador urged Washington to be prepared to grant financial assistance and economic support packages to Mexico in the event of continued or increased student violence, as a way of showing U.S. support for the regime.

Finally, not one document declassified by the U.S. government discusses at any length evidence that government agents operating as snipers from the windows of the Tlatelolco apartment complex may have initiated the massacre of October 2

ghorman massacre

Is the issue tanks ? Because the National Guard has killed people during Vietnam.

This thread is actually really depressing.

Yes. The Tulsa race massacre for instance. Not that I’m comparing the current state of politics to longstanding racism, only that once you are sufficiently demonized by conservatives they have no problem killing you. And you can find similar events big and small throughout American history.

Would the United States, under normal circumstances, in the era of cellphones and cameras?

No.

Would Trump?

I don’t think theres a single thing that Trump wouldnt do, he is such a infantile, reactionary, egomaniacable manbaby that I can see him doing literally anything, if it makes him feel powerful or if he thinks it’d give him some kind of edge/opportunity.

In a second. It might not have the same end result though. Trumps handlers are playing risky game. Least they unite a majority for the short time it would take to destroy the current despot and all his sycophants.

Sure they killed 1,000,000 protestors in the streets of DC, but at least they would never nuke an American city!

It really depends on when this happens. If it would happen today, there would be bloodshed, but probably not on a Tiananmen level. The longer we wait, the more likely that the number of deaths is higher in such a case. Which makes it that much more important to act now (which, to be fair, is easy for me to say, considering I don’t live in the US).

The false flag, the event, the whatever you want to call it is on the way.

Oh my sweet summer child, the United States has had several tiananmen Square style incidents.

Look up the bonus army, Kent state, battle of Blair mountain…