• kieron115@startrek.website
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    4 months ago

    Had a co-worker who would eat at their desk so they could use their whole actual lunch break to take a shit lol. The only thing I regularly saw him eat was butter chicken.

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      4 months ago

      In the hell scape of corporate America, I imagine that might be the only time some people get truly alone and able to unwind. So I guess I get it.

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    Being someone who has to consume high fibre, as part of a medical condition, I cannot stress this enough: DRINK WATER, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD DRINK MORE WATER THAN YOU USUALLY DO!!!

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        Part of the hijacking of our bodies by processed food and sugar is that many of us literally cannot discern the subtle feeling of dehydration from the more intense feelings of “wanting to eat something high glycemic” plus all that sugar requires more water. So, I can see how today we’re struggling with hydration more than in the past, when bodies were more fit and adjusted to whole foods and healthier routines.

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        When you consume a high fibre diet, you require more water than usual. Depending on the body type, it can be difficult to ascertain just how much water someone needs to consume.

        If you drink a normal amount of water on a constantly high fibre diet, you can tear your anus doing a big poo. There is no nicer way to say it.

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        What does that accomplish? Selecting for people with higher thirst? Imo, is it really that valuable to push instincts over logic and memory?

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    PDF Link: Closing America’s Fiber Intake Gap: Communication Strategies From a Food and Fiber Summit https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6124841/pdf/10.1177_1559827615588079.pdf

    “Fiber intake recommendations from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) range from 19 grams to 38 grams per day, depending on gender and age.” 9. Institute of Medicine, Food and Nutrition Board. Dietary Reference Intakes: Energy, Carbohydrates, Fiber, Fat, Fatty Acids, Cholesterol, Protein and Amino Acids. Washington, DC: National Academies Press; 2005.

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    If you read the guidelines this paper is referencing : https://www.nationalacademies.org/read/10490/chapter/9 You will see that fibre is not a essential nutrient, rather it ameliorates the effects of poor food/nutrition. I highly recommend reading the guideline directly, it is fascinating, especially the physiological effects section

    The guideline is based heavily on epidemiology, in fact the only RCT on fibre consumption I’m aware of shows fibre is a causal factor in constipation : https://doi.org/10.3748/wjg.v18.i33.4593

    If your eating whole foods, adding fibre isn’t going to do much for you because your food is nutritious. If your eating food that is bad for you, fibre is going to help because it reduces the amount of bad food you absorb… but my take away from this would be to avoid eating the bad food entirely

    The one compelling benefit i’ve seen argued is that fibre is broken down into SCAs in intestines which is good for health, but this can also be achieved by eating low carb, intermittent fasting, etc.

  • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world
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    I eat overnight oats with chia seeds for lunch daily and beans with a lot of meals. When I first started doing it…HOLY SHIT the gas was massively disgusting. It gets better though.

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      I’ve been eating “fiber one” breakfast bars for years as an easy way to boost my fiber. The gas never stops for me. It doesn’t even smell, but there’s a lot of it.

      I definitely feel the difference in my body when I stop. The gas is unfortunate, but it’s preferable to no fiber.

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      i can’t eat oats for the same reason, but it doesn’t get better - i’ve cut them out of my diet and eat more veggies instead. Although I’m gonna live alone in a few months, and i think my cats don’t care, so i might treat myself sometimes in the future.

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    This is actually the reality behind the, really racist, mindset that “taco bell gives you the shits, ha ha ha”. Since Taco Bell (and a lot of mexican inspired food) is very high in fiber.

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      I don’t think that the stereotype that Taco Bell gives you diarrhea is related to the fact that it’s high in fibre (which should not give you diarrhea), or racism.

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        I’m going to assume you are American/European(+UK) where we bastardize the hell out of actual Mexican food.

        But the general rule of thumb? Anything with beans. Beans are ridiculously high in fiber AND a really good price to nutrients ratio. And in most fast food (and even restaurant) settings, beans are used as a filler for that reason. But also? Beans (especially “refried”) is GOOD since they tend to get spiced like month old beef (like a lot of “poor people food”) so you just have massive amounts of flavor in every single bite.

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          Do they not bastardize Mexican food in Asia, Australia or Canada? Seems more likely I’d get something more Authentic in California.

          But yeah, I was suspecting it was beans. I have a massive sack of beans in the pantry, because I love beans and my wife loves beans and we love beans. So maybe I’ll go make some beans later.

          … ooh, looks like split peas have even more fiber and I’ve got a container of that in the fridge. Gonna have bigger bowls of that this week.

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            Can’t speak to Asian or Australian “mexican” food (although now I desperately want to eat at a Japanese Taco Bell…). And I THINK I have had Canadian Mexican once or twice but any time I am up there I tend to gravitate towards “Canadian Fried Chicken” and the like since they got the message from the Filipinos and just add a shit ton of gravy (and sometimes “cajun poutine”) to that which… is the correct way to eat Fried Chicken.

            But mentioned it in the other branch: “Authentic” is a very loaded term. Taking Chinese food for example (since that is near and dear to both my heart and colon), it is all about adapting cultural recipes and styles of eating to available ingredients and regional preferences. American Chinese tends to be a LOT sweeter. My experience is that Briths Chinese tends to be more spicy and incorporate aspects of Indian cooking (so… a very roundabout way of being similar to Nepalese food). Even within China you have very big differences between what you would eat in Hong Kong versus Yunnan, let alone if you go more North.

            That said, a good way to think of Mexican (especially Taco Bell Mexican) is that they are taking sandwiches (that is what tacos and burritos are) an stuffing them massively to the point of ONLY serving open faced sandwiches. It is still a sandwich with a lot of the same flavor profiles, but… it is hard to get too cranky at people insisting that it is different.


            One more thing. Don’t sleep on supplements. No, not the kind that the good grocery store keeps encouraging you to buy. Stuff like metamucil is great for increasing fiber in your diet in weeks where you might not want to eat split pea or beans or whatever.

            And… vitamins in general are good to have. We redefine “the food pyramid” and so forth every few years but anyone who actually puts some thought in realizes that it is nigh impossible to get THAT much vitamins and nutrients into a daily diet without some REAL expensive shenanigans. In theory you get that over the course of a week or even two weeks. In practice? We all live very busy lives but most of us also don’t engage in the level of physical activity where you are going to be eating 3-4 hearty meals a day to stay functional. But taking a multivitamin daily and some fiber powder a few times a week goes a long way towards evening out the more hectic/less healthy weeks.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      Taco Bell is “Mexican food” in the same way that French fries are “French food”. Which is to say: it’s not.

      And Taco Bell gives you the shits because it’s fairly poor quality, not because of any ethnic lean that its offerings are marketed with

      • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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        Homie… you aren’t really doing yourself any favors with the “racist” allegations. But let’s break this down a bit.

        “French fries”, at least in their most “traditional” form ARE “French”… in the sense that they are frenched. It is a loaded term that mostly relates to making food more aesthetically pleasing. But, with regards to vegetables, it is commonly used to refer to cutting food into long strips. Sound familiar? Julienne cuts/matchsticks are related but folk have Thoughts on the differences.

        So yes, “french fries” are “French” in the sense that they are “frenched potatoes that are subsequently fried”. Steak Fries break this but Steak Fries are a war crime 99/100 times (but holy shit are they amazing when cooked properly).

        And Taco Bell gives you the shits because it’s fairly poor quality,

        Sorry, what do you mean by that? Well, let’s face it, we all know what you mean by that. But let’s move on.

        Tacos and burritos do indeed have a lot of legacy with “poor people food” since they are essentially Mexican(-ish) sandwiches. It is protein, maybe some veg, and filler wrapped in something you can hold in your hand. And, the “filler” is the key there. Since the common protein has, historically, been beans of some form. Because they are dirt cheap, store really well, and are an AMAZING vessel for flavor (as detailed in the other branch).

        Which gets back to… beans are high in fiber. Fiber really helps to regulate bodily functions. And people don’t realize just how irregular their bodily functions are.

        And to roll back to the start: Taco Bell IS actually “Mexican” food in the same sense that Chinese restaraunts are “Chinese fod”. No, they are not 100% authentic but they are instead taking a cultural food and adapting it to available ingredients and regional preferences. And American Chinese or British Chinese (shockingly awesome) are just as “Chinese” as Cantonese or Yunnan Chinese food. They are regional variants based on available ingredients. Okay, Canadian Chinese food can suck a butt but I will never turn down that styrofoam plate of nonsense.

        But hey, keep on showing dat ass. It makes for a good learning experience for the rest of us.

        • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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          Do you… seriously think you’ve found a “gotcha” moment…? What even is this diatribe? You’re jumping to conclusions that are in a different goddamn timezone.

          I mean that Taco Bell is ass-tier Mexican, and it’s very easy to find better quality Mexican food. And solid Mexican food is delicious. Excellent Mexican food (and Chinese, and… well, seriously, name any cuisine) is one of the few things I miss about living in Los Angeles.

    • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      When comparing it to the average US diet, it is crazy. They recommend around 32g for Adult Males, for reference, a serving of Metamucil (popular fiber supplement) has 2.4g of Fiber.

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          LOL I just pictured someone surrounded by wrappers of Metamucil and not a veggie in sight. “I’m getting all the fiber”.

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              I looked it up out of curiosity, basically someone ate (as in it was soo much that it wasn’t drinkable) a ton of drink powder metamucil that it caused an impacted bowel.

              While taking additional fiber without talking to a doctor may not be the best plan, that’s a large step away from chugging fiber and taking well over the recommended dose.

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                They describe it as being so thick he had to chew it. 30 “scoops”, and 2 liters of water. And he still had to chew it, it was that thick.

                And then even more in a peanut butter sandwich.

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                Thanks, I guessed about as much. Good thing I was joking and just planning to buy some normal supplements and think about beans and vegetables more.

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                  Yeah, vegetables and fruits are the way to go. Fiber is complex and is attached to a host of other non essential nutrients condusive to good health. Fiber supplements simply don’t have it.

                  Eat a fruit with everymeal, add a bigger portion of veggies. Snack on dried fruits. Use beans/lentils. Go for whole grains.

                  Do it slowly, introduce small changes over time.

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    Food companies " yeah we know you fuckers don’t get enough fiber, but processing food removes it. So even though yall get like twice the protein ya need HOW ABOUT SOME MORE PROTEIN!!!"

    Americans “yeah I guess that’ll do.” fart noises